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Fargo (TV series)

They told us everything right from the beginning.

The whole thing is littered with foreshadowing. From episode-long stuff, like the final episode showing the hole in the ice that Lester falls through right at the beginning; to season-long stuff like Gus being animal control.

Another thing I noticed is, since there's a whole thing about Malvo the devil, when he's in Vegas, standing in the elevator as Lester runs away from him, the camera frames him in the elevator doorway and the blood spatter on the wall behind him looks like 2 bloody wings <3

And then at the end, after Gus shoots him the first time, he fucking snarls at him with blood in his mouth. Pure animal.

There are so many things that tie together in beautiful ways. Too many to mention, really. It's just a really good piece of storytelling. Visually stunning. It feels like a piece of classical drama.
 
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Series 3 - excellent. Ewan - great.
One guy playing two characters - potential to be really distracting and annoying. I expect they will somehow make it work though.
 
zoooo said:
Series 3 - excellent. Ewan - great.
One guy playing two characters - potential to be really distracting and annoying. I expect they will somehow make it work though.
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Well, Ewan M, every film he's in, tosses a coin to decide whether he's going to be great or embarrassingly shit, so it could go either way. It being twins, maybe he'll give us one of each...
 
billy_bob said:
Well, Ewan M, every film he's in, tosses a coin to decide whether he's going to be great or embarrassingly shit, so it could go either way. It being twins, maybe he'll give us one of each...
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I like him... but I think the pendulum definitely swings mostly to shit.
 
...and when McGregor gives a bad performance, then like with all good actors it's usually the writing that is at fault. The idea that Fargo suddenly would be shit because he's in is silly.
 
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I hope he isn't to Fargo what Colin Farrell was to True Detective. There was probably an "ooh we've got Colin Farrell so let's write a shit script" thing going on in the back of their heads.
 
bi0boy said:
I hope he isn't to Fargo what Colin Farrell was to True Detective. There was probably an "ooh we've got Colin Farrell so let's write a shit script" thing going on in the back of their heads.
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That's not how writing and casting for TV works, you've got it the wrong way round. They didn't write a shit second season because Colin Farrell was in it, they wrote a shit screenplay and then they cast it with famous actors (in the US Vince Vaughn is a bigger star than Farrell and Rachael McAdams is pretty big too, so it wasn't just the Colin Farrell show). The second season got rushed out because the first one was a huge success. For the first season Nic Pizzolatto, the creator and sole writer of True Detective, had years till it made it to the screen, for the second season it was months. It looks like he only had one good season in him and under pressure to keep the momentum going, he wrote a poor second season.

Can't people wrap their head around writers because they can't see them on screen when they need someone to blame ? TV is a writer's medium first and whether a show works primarily comes down to them.
 
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HBO have already admitted they pushed Pizzolatto to get out a script too soon...which went against their ethos of allowing projects to develop at the speed they need to to be great.

One of the execs accepted it was a mistake on their part for trying to maintain an audience for what was a suprise hit for them.
 
Vintage Paw said:
Yeah, I don't like Martin Freeman but Lester was a great character.
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I can't say I'm a huge fan of his either, but it wasn't just a great character - he was great in the role. It was maybe the first time he really successfully exploited the sense of 'everyman' he has - and subverted it of course - without doing so by just being Tim From The Office in everything.
 
I started watching S2 last night. Got 4 episodes in.

I'm enjoying it, but it seems like something missing. It doesn't have the same warmth of S1. There was something cosy and special about Molly that brought it all together, and the figure of Malvo was such a good, singular antagonist. I like Molly's dad well enough, but it's missing that spark, and having so many antagonists doesn't give me the same focus as before. The Kitchen brothers aren't a patch on Numbers and Wrench.

Granted, I'm only 4 episodes in. And I am enjoying it, but I prefer S1 so far.
 
Vintage Paw said:
I started watching S2 last night. Got 4 episodes in.

I'm enjoying it, but it seems like something missing. It doesn't have the same warmth of S1. There was something cosy and special about Molly that brought it all together, and the figure of Malvo was such a good, singular antagonist. I like Molly's dad well enough, but it's missing that spark, and having so many antagonists doesn't give me the same focus as before. The Kitchen brothers aren't a patch on Numbers and Wrench.

Granted, I'm only 4 episodes in. And I am enjoying it, but I prefer S1 so far.
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I much preferred S1. Malvo made it, and S2 just didn't have the same spark for me, either.
 
Episode 5 picked up a fair bit. I'm trying to work out who's going to be left standing at the end game, and who are going to be the biggest players. I guess Milligan, Dodd, Hanzee and Peggy. And of course Lou but that's a given.

It feels really weird waiting for Betsy to die. I'm not sure I like it. At the moment she only exists in order to die. I mean, everyone else who dies violently, they have some kind of story attached to them, they die because of the violence of the situation and get caught up in it in various ways. But she's literally only there so we can slowly watch her die, and we know it's going to happen (if not on camera during the season then after it finishes). It feels wrong. Maybe it makes more sense as the season goes on, but at the moment I don't like it.
 
The bump got me all excited. When is S3 happening on UK 'terrestrial' (is that still a thing?) TV?

I agree the absence of Molly meant the second season lacked some of the contrastive warmth of the first. But I still think the complexity of Kirsten Dunst's character and her performance in the role alone made it one of the most spellbinding bits of telly I've ever seen.
 
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Episode 5 picked up a fair bit. I'm trying to work out who's going to be left standing at the end game, and who are going to be the biggest players. I guess Milligan, Dodd, Hanzee and Peggy. And of course Lou but that's a given.

It feels really weird waiting for Betsy to die. I'm not sure I like it. At the moment she only exists in order to die. I mean, everyone else who dies violently, they have some kind of story attached to them, they die because of the violence of the situation and get caught up in it in various ways. But she's literally only there so we can slowly watch her die, and we know it's going to happen (if not on camera during the season then after it finishes). It feels wrong. Maybe it makes more sense as the season goes on, but at the moment I don't like it.
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My problem with S2 is I didn't feel the connection to the characters as I did in S1. I didn't know who was next for the chop, and I didn't really care.
 
Series 2 is great in its own right. Mike Milligan & Hanzee are both great "villains" in their own right, and both have different aspects of Malvos character to them, the running themes of patriarchy (note, not "The Patriarchy") and feminism are well explored, there's loads of great period aspects (life spring, Reagan, post Nixon conspiracy theories/paranoia), loads of foreshadowing of season 1 (well worth watching some YT vids about this), a really playful storyline and characters. The characters in particular are great - there's no single character whose worldview isn't challenged by the spiralling events outside of their control which throw their sense of self determination over life out the window. Really solid story telling, and well worth a second watch to catch all the things you missed first time around. I can't decide which season I like the most, but neither is weak at all.
 
billy_bob said:
The bump got me all excited. When is S3 happening on UK 'terrestrial' (is that still a thing?) TV?

I agree the absence of Molly meant the second season lacked some of the contrastive warmth of the first. But I still think the complexity of Kirsten Dunst's character and her performance in the role alone made it one of the most spellbinding bits of telly I've ever seen.
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Spring 2017, I believe.
 
Well I'm about to start ep 9 now and I'm enjoying it a lot more. It still doesn't have that cohesive whatever-it-is of S1 for me, but as I've got to know the characters more it's a lot better. Now Milligan and Hanzee have come into their own it's easier to find some kind of direction - in the first 4 or so episodes there were just so many people you didn't know who to focus on.

And Peggy is amazing.
 
Yeah, officially really enjoying this now.

Everything with Peggy and Ed and Dodd in the cabin was golden. The motel was fucking bonkers. "It's just a flying saucer, Ed."

Going to finish this tonight :D
 
Finished.

Brilliant.

And omg baby Numbers and Wrench! <3

Fucking lol at Milligan in his office.

Will definitely watch it through again, and would be interested to see S1 again too to look for stuff.

Do we know what era S3 is set in?
 
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