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hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Can't remember where I saw it, maybe it was posted somewhere on here, but there was this from a month or so ago:
jacobinmag.com
Mark Zuckerberg’s “Metaverse” Is a Dystopian Nightmare
The Facebook founder intends to usher in a new era of the internet where there’s no distinction between the virtual and the real — and no logging off.
jacobinmag.com
paul mckenna
Bellend
The focus of this discussion is Facebook, a company with a 2.91 billion monthly user base. You and your experian file is 1 person. Your post is approximately 3 billion times less relevant than those before. Kind of impressive
On Fire
Well-Known Member
Zuckerberg, Sandberg Should Face Criminal Probe, Liberal Nonprofit Group Says
A liberal nonprofit that advocates for market competition is urging federal authorities to investigate whether top executives including Mark Zuckerberg and Sheryl Sandberg broke the law, adding personal accusations to the allegations facing the company following disclosures from a whistle-blower.
www.bloomberg.com
stdP
One Swiss dinosaur in Polly Gosling's anorak hood
I'm assuming most people are aware... but in case you're not, the concept of the metaverse (and thus likely facebook's name change) was gleaned from Neal Stephenson's Snow Crash, a 1992 dystopian science fiction novel.
The big bad guy of Snow Crash is L. Bob Rife, a man with a monopoly on almost all media in what remains of america after the government and large parts of society have collapsed. He uses extensive research in to historical human language patterns to design a virus that allows him to take control of anyone exposed to one of his targeted digital signals, as well as being creating physical versions marketed as both a drug and used as an indoctrinating substance within a corrupt religion. As well as mounting an attack on america from within, L. Bob Rife also indoctrinates thousands of illegal immigrants on their way to america in to the same style of servitude.
Hmm. There's a metal here somewhere, like steely or zincy or tungsteny. But I can't quite put my finger on it.
stdP
One Swiss dinosaur in Polly Gosling's anorak hood
P.S. I've just come across it on my bookshelf again, but I'm also reminded of Simon Stalenhag's great little sci-fi picturebook The Electric State, a girl and her robot travelling through the ruins of a society addicted to a collective virtual reality. There's examples of this all over sci-fi I'm sure but Stalenhag's pictures are especially evocative.
www.simonstalenhag.se
simonstalenhag.se
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
Clegg and Zuckerberg would definitely fail the Turing Test
Hearse Pileup
Horse Pickup, isle 5
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
1:30 - "Put people first" comes last in their list of principles
I for one welcome our new cyborg overlords
On Fire
Well-Known Member
Facebook's metaverse plans labelled as 'dystopian' and 'a bad idea'
Roger McNamee, an early Facebook investor, says it "should not be allowed" to build the metaverse.
www.bbc.co.uk
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Support the outsourced Facebook Cleaners
Outsourced cleaners at Facebook London are being overworked till they're sick & exhausted – support their campaign to be brought in house
www.crowdfunder.co.uk
paul mckenna
Bellend
Now is a seriously good time to buy FB stock
magneze
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Don't encourage them.
ska invita
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On Fire
Well-Known Member
Not sure if you are joking?
Meta Platforms does trade at a bit of a discount compared with other large tech companies.
paul mckenna
Bellend
not joking, actually bought some stock after mentioning it.
Of all the FAANG companies, they've probably got the best record of creating product in the shortest time. If the metaverse turns out to be another internet landgrab i'll wager they get there first.
They took a big hit with Apple's privacy stuff also but they'll find a workaround and turn that firehose back on
paul mckenna
Bellend
PRISM - Wikipedia
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Copied over from the cleaners thread:
New press release:
• Facebook cleaners plan ‘Cancel Facebook’ protest against excessive workloads
• Speakers to include John McDonnell
• Cleaners to vote on strike action
• Tribunal declines to reinstate dismissed cleaning supervisor
Facebook's London cleaners are to step up their campaign against excessive workloads and to be brought in house with a major protest on Friday November 26th.
The protest, labelled ‘Cancel Facebook’, is scheduled for 4pm at 10 Brock Street, NW1 3FG. The event will feature samba music, street performers, and a variety of speakers including former Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer John McDonnell, ADCU General Secretary James Farrar, and Glenroy Watson of the RMTs Black Solidarity Committee's Secretary.
The cleaners have been campaigning since June about increased workloads which are making them exhausted and ill. Their employer, Churchill Cleaning, which took over the Facebook contract in January, has added eight extra floors to the six that used to make up the cleaners' schedule. Churchill has failed to provide any extra resources to meet the increased workload.
Facebook itself has consistently refused to intervene on behalf of its cleaners. The Cleaners and Allied Independent Workers Union, has approached the company on multiple occasions, but it has consistently refused to get involved beyond vague expressions of concern about the wellbeing of its service providers and its intent to foster a respectful and safe working environment. Beyond that, it simply repeats the mantra that these are matters for Churchill and for its facilities management contractor JLL. Despite repeated enquiries from CAIWU, Facebook has declined to comment on the cleaners’ request to be brought in house.
In the absence of any positive progress, the prospect of industrial action grows increasingly likely. CAIWU has already served Churchill with notice of its members' intention to vote about the possibility of strike action, and Christmas Eve has been identified as a probable date for the first of what is likely to be a series of one-day strikes. CAIWU organiser Bruce Coker says that striking is very much a last resort, but that the cleaners feel they've been left with no other choice. ‘The campaign has been going on for months now,' said Coker. 'Our members are getting ill from overwork, but Churchill refuses to acknowledge that there's a problem. The cleaners have reached the point where going on strike seems like the only way to make Churchill, JLL and Facebook listen.’ Asked the reason behind the ‘Cancel Facebook’ label for the protest, Coker explained, ‘As a society we are becoming very quick to judge and cancel individuals for minor misdemeanours, and platforms like Facebook actively encourage this behaviour by rewarding outrage and engagement. We want to make some noise about the actual harm these companies are causing, not just to members of the public but often to their own workers.’
One former cleaner who won't be taking part in any strike is Guillermo Camacho, the supervisor dismissed last month for allegedly poor performance of his duties. Both CAIWU and Camacho, whose reinstatement case was rejected by the employment tribunal last week, continue to insist that the real reason behind his dismissal was his trade union activities, of which he made no secret. Camacho's unfair dismissal case is scheduled to be heard by the tribunal in the new year, by when his former colleagues are hoping their campaign will have resulted in a return to tolerable workloads at Brock Street.
Protest: Friday November 26th, 4pm | 10 Brock Street, London NW1 3FG
New press release:
• Facebook cleaners plan ‘Cancel Facebook’ protest against excessive workloads
• Speakers to include John McDonnell
• Cleaners to vote on strike action
• Tribunal declines to reinstate dismissed cleaning supervisor
Facebook's London cleaners are to step up their campaign against excessive workloads and to be brought in house with a major protest on Friday November 26th.
The protest, labelled ‘Cancel Facebook’, is scheduled for 4pm at 10 Brock Street, NW1 3FG. The event will feature samba music, street performers, and a variety of speakers including former Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer John McDonnell, ADCU General Secretary James Farrar, and Glenroy Watson of the RMTs Black Solidarity Committee's Secretary.
The cleaners have been campaigning since June about increased workloads which are making them exhausted and ill. Their employer, Churchill Cleaning, which took over the Facebook contract in January, has added eight extra floors to the six that used to make up the cleaners' schedule. Churchill has failed to provide any extra resources to meet the increased workload.
Facebook itself has consistently refused to intervene on behalf of its cleaners. The Cleaners and Allied Independent Workers Union, has approached the company on multiple occasions, but it has consistently refused to get involved beyond vague expressions of concern about the wellbeing of its service providers and its intent to foster a respectful and safe working environment. Beyond that, it simply repeats the mantra that these are matters for Churchill and for its facilities management contractor JLL. Despite repeated enquiries from CAIWU, Facebook has declined to comment on the cleaners’ request to be brought in house.
In the absence of any positive progress, the prospect of industrial action grows increasingly likely. CAIWU has already served Churchill with notice of its members' intention to vote about the possibility of strike action, and Christmas Eve has been identified as a probable date for the first of what is likely to be a series of one-day strikes. CAIWU organiser Bruce Coker says that striking is very much a last resort, but that the cleaners feel they've been left with no other choice. ‘The campaign has been going on for months now,' said Coker. 'Our members are getting ill from overwork, but Churchill refuses to acknowledge that there's a problem. The cleaners have reached the point where going on strike seems like the only way to make Churchill, JLL and Facebook listen.’ Asked the reason behind the ‘Cancel Facebook’ label for the protest, Coker explained, ‘As a society we are becoming very quick to judge and cancel individuals for minor misdemeanours, and platforms like Facebook actively encourage this behaviour by rewarding outrage and engagement. We want to make some noise about the actual harm these companies are causing, not just to members of the public but often to their own workers.’
One former cleaner who won't be taking part in any strike is Guillermo Camacho, the supervisor dismissed last month for allegedly poor performance of his duties. Both CAIWU and Camacho, whose reinstatement case was rejected by the employment tribunal last week, continue to insist that the real reason behind his dismissal was his trade union activities, of which he made no secret. Camacho's unfair dismissal case is scheduled to be heard by the tribunal in the new year, by when his former colleagues are hoping their campaign will have resulted in a return to tolerable workloads at Brock Street.
Protest: Friday November 26th, 4pm | 10 Brock Street, London NW1 3FG
magneze
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Meta ordered to sell Giphy by UK regulator
Following the release of preliminary findings in August.
www.theverge.com
ska invita
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Meta ordered to sell Giphy by UK regulator
Following the release of preliminary findings in August.
magneze
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Rohingya sue Facebook for £150bn over Myanmar genocide
Victims in US and UK legal action accuse social media firm of failing to prevent incitement of violence
Facilitating genocide. Fucked up.
BristolEcho
Well-Known Member
They showed a version of what the Metaverse might look like last night and it appeared to be really shit. The graphics were awful for a start. I didn't really see the point and it didn't seem that original either.
Who are they hoping takes this up because they were trying to promote it as an alternative working space. Can't see our safeguarding meetings taking place in this environment to be honest.
That being said I suspect I am not the target audience and they are hoping forward thinking creative types take it on as well as current social media users?
Who are they hoping takes this up because they were trying to promote it as an alternative working space. Can't see our safeguarding meetings taking place in this environment to be honest.
That being said I suspect I am not the target audience and they are hoping forward thinking creative types take it on as well as current social media users?
ska invita
back on the other side
I haven't seen it in action but I'm sure it's as crap as you say .. The only saving grace is that it might be early days and they are getting in there early.
Thing is though in tech races early runners like friends reunited or even Skype usually get superceded and associated with being old-fashioned when the tech moves on
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I bet they'll turn out to have copyrighted something that's copylefted. I do hope so
Hearse Pileup
Horse Pickup, isle 5
Anything like this?
