It looks like the nozzle blew off. Hey ho. I don't think it really damages their brand.
Extinction Rebellion
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It looks like the nozzle blew off. Hey ho. I don't think it really damages their brand.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
"nah what we need is a ffuckin... a fffuckin... FIRE ENGINE"
This is terrific stuff even if it failed a bit at the implementation stage. Big dreams are important. If anything it's kind of sympathetic.
Heh, you have reminded me of feeling a bit of an idiot when I went to the local police station taking a couple of newspapers and some fruit for a couple of people who had been grabbed at the M77 in Pollok. Well, only an idiot in that the police told me they were no longer there, but the real point was that arresting people in the very south of Glasgow and taking them to a police station in the north seemed uncool, so while I was lazing in my flat that day near the relevant police station, brother phoned and suggested I go down there pretty much just to indicate that taking people to another area doesn't make them instantly hidden, can't demand to see them but can take newspapers and innocent foodstuffs and ask whether they could have them.
Libertad
Sparking up a rollie in the Reichstag
How about outside the Treasury?
friedaweed
Me and me girl named Jane
If anything I think it's made the state think very seriously of how easy it is to drive a decommissioned, privately owned former fire appliance into the City of London and do whatever you want with it. Pretty scary if you think of what may have been enabled in such a vehicle.
Frightening and ill thought out fucktwittery to be honest and good luck to anyone who owns one privately from here on. It didn't fail a bit at the implementation stage, it went disastrously wrong and could have had very serious consequences if it had hit someone. That wasn't a hose pipe on the lawn Benny Hill scene if you know the forces involved in that kit.
If anything I think it's made the state think very seriously of how easy it is to drive a decommissioned, privately owned former fire appliance into the City of London and do whatever you want with it. Pretty scary if you think of what may have been enabled in such a vehicle.
Frightening and ill thought out fucktwittery to be honest and good luck to anyone who owns one privately from here on. It didn't fail a bit at the implementation stage, it went disastrously wrong and could have had very serious consequences if it had hit someone. That wasn't a hose pipe on the lawn Benny Hill scene if you know the forces involved in that kit.
Chill out
friedaweed
Me and me girl named Jane
I'm completely chilled thanks chuck. It doesn't stop me being aghast at someone's Darwin Award attempts
Here's someone who knew what he was doing with that sort of kit just to put it into context.
LODD: Ga. firefighter dies after being struck by fire hose
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
You do sound a little bit Daily Mail in that rant tbh.
friedaweed
Me and me girl named Jane
You're entitled to your opinion, it's a bit shite IMHO but you're entitled to it
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Miss-Shelf
I'll meet you further on up the road
XR is down on the Prevent list in some schools now
Libertad
Sparking up a rollie in the Reichstag
Do you have a source for that?
Miss-Shelf
I'll meet you further on up the road
It was
From an ex student of ours who teaches in a local london primary (dont know the names). They had a whole staff meeting about Prevent duty recently and XR was listed as extremist group and any child mentioning it re involvement should trigger a safeguarding concern
friedaweed
Me and me girl named Jane
That's a shame really from the general perspective of our youth becoming more recently politicised and mobilised against climate change because it probably is one of the only ways to get some long lasting momentum behind the issue on the whole but, as has been seen before with this particular group, they really are writing their protest plans on the back of a fucking beer mat
I'm not against the principals of what they're doing however, if you criticise their tactics you always get the daily mail shit comments, but they are a bit overtly 'Keystone Kops' in their approach to doing things. It just creates easy pickings for anyone who wants to politically oppose them and paint a picture that they're a bunch of doubloons that you wouldn't want your kids to get too hung up on. Look at the example above. I gave a quite simple informed position on why this wasn't a good idea today and someone jumps on the 'daily mail' bandwagon. If the self induced fucktwittery and hilarity of their actions wasn't there it wouldn't be daily mail column friendly fodder in the first place. That's the point. You make yourself a target for such by being this fucking silly.
I'd rather get behind Greta and her clan than these dobbers tbh. The more daft stuff XR do the more they present themselves for that sort of easily discredited critique. At least the kids are dealing with their critique and exposing it for the pure prejudice that it is.
Ageism and denial.
I'm sorry but these lot look daft in comparison to what the kids are doing through their own mobilisation and long may it continue
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
It was an obvious response.
Less to target the kids, more the adults that might aid them.
I often think how George Monbiot couldn't possibly be a bigger dick if he tried and he repeatedly surprises me.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
But you didn't criticize it on any decent political grounds, just some weird look at the relationship to possible terrorist tactics nonsense. There's plenty of good criticisms to be made of the action and similar ones like it, but I don't think "Ooooohhhh terrorism!" is one of them.
friedaweed
Me and me girl named Jane
I criticised them on their shear stupidity and the immediate danger they placed to individuals in the vicinity of their calamitous fuck up. You have seen the video haven't you? I didn't think "Oooh terrorism" yer tit that's been the response of some of the services now concerned by their fuckwittery.
rekil
to menny cranks
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
that message will get through? do they think magistrates fill in a message form which they send to higher echelons?
Mr.Bishie
pickled egg
The latest from their fb feed: 
The London police aim to prevent the October Rebellion via “specialist removals teams” from across England. So Extinction Rebellion asks all Rebels not coming to London to organise civil disobedience in their home towns, cities, and villages - on Monday. Thus we can preempt attempts to concentrate national police resources in London.
Here are some ideas:
1. Target local government authorities with acts of civil disobedience, symbolic direct action. This could include contacting the local police with calls that you are planning actions of civil disobedience.
2. For those Rebels who cannot take action on the street, we are asking that you flood all Government Departments with complaints via phone, email, or any other means, for their failure to take a stand in the face of the sixth mass extinction.
3. Contact your local MPs to ask for their support for Rebellion. This will help defer strong police action.
4. Promote the Rebellion through all available social media channels. Here's a recommended online outreach strategy. This Rebellion is for all of us.
Help Pre-empt a Concentration of Police Resources in London and be a part of a historic moment in the British civil disobedience.
The London police aim to prevent the October Rebellion via “specialist removals teams” from across England. So Extinction Rebellion asks all Rebels not coming to London to organise civil disobedience in their home towns, cities, and villages - on Monday. Thus we can preempt attempts to concentrate national police resources in London.
Here are some ideas:
1. Target local government authorities with acts of civil disobedience, symbolic direct action. This could include contacting the local police with calls that you are planning actions of civil disobedience.
2. For those Rebels who cannot take action on the street, we are asking that you flood all Government Departments with complaints via phone, email, or any other means, for their failure to take a stand in the face of the sixth mass extinction.
3. Contact your local MPs to ask for their support for Rebellion. This will help defer strong police action.
4. Promote the Rebellion through all available social media channels. Here's a recommended online outreach strategy. This Rebellion is for all of us.
Help Pre-empt a Concentration of Police Resources in London and be a part of a historic moment in the British civil disobedience.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Well it's an idea.The latest from their fb feed:
The London police aim to prevent the October Rebellion via “specialist removals teams” from across England. So Extinction Rebellion asks all Rebels not coming to London to organise civil disobedience in their home towns, cities, and villages - on Monday. Thus we can preempt attempts to concentrate national police resources in London.
Here are some ideas:
1. Target local government authorities with acts of civil disobedience, symbolic direct action. This could include contacting the local police with calls that you are planning actions of civil disobedience.
2. For those Rebels who cannot take action on the street, we are asking that you flood all Government Departments with complaints via phone, email, or any other means, for their failure to take a stand in the face of the sixth mass extinction.
3. Contact your local MPs to ask for their support for Rebellion. This will help defer strong police action.
4. Promote the Rebellion through all available social media channels. Here's a recommended online outreach strategy. This Rebellion is for all of us.
Help Pre-empt a Concentration of Police Resources in London and be a part of a historic moment in the British civil disobedience.
Proper Tidy
Arsed
Stretching the police is a very good idea. One of hallmarks of 2011 riots was that police were too stretched, in terms of numbers of coppers and geographically, to be able to respond effectively, and when there was shipping in to bulk up the Met this was followed by stuff happening in some of the places the coppers had been shipped in from.
Not sure about writing to MPs and the claimed restraining effect this will have on coppers. Sounds like shit.
Not sure about writing to MPs and the claimed restraining effect this will have on coppers. Sounds like shit.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
I know in the grand scheme this is minor. But. Calling their members/supporters rebels.The latest from their fb feed:
The London police aim to prevent the October Rebellion via “specialist removals teams” from across England. So Extinction Rebellion asks all Rebels not coming to London to organise civil disobedience in their home towns, cities, and villages - on Monday. Thus we can preempt attempts to concentrate national police resources in London.
Here are some ideas:
1. Target local government authorities with acts of civil disobedience, symbolic direct action. This could include contacting the local police with calls that you are planning actions of civil disobedience.
2. For those Rebels who cannot take action on the street, we are asking that you flood all Government Departments with complaints via phone, email, or any other means, for their failure to take a stand in the face of the sixth mass extinction.
3. Contact your local MPs to ask for their support for Rebellion. This will help defer strong police action.
4. Promote the Rebellion through all available social media channels. Here's a recommended online outreach strategy. This Rebellion is for all of us.
Help Pre-empt a Concentration of Police Resources in London and be a part of a historic moment in the British civil disobedience.
Makes it sound like a kids club.
BigTom
Well-Known Member
The latest from their fb feed:
The London police aim to prevent the October Rebellion via “specialist removals teams” from across England. So Extinction Rebellion asks all Rebels not coming to London to organise civil disobedience in their home towns, cities, and villages - on Monday. Thus we can preempt attempts to concentrate national police resources in London.
Here are some ideas:
1. Target local government authorities with acts of civil disobedience, symbolic direct action. This could include contacting the local police with calls that you are planning actions of civil disobedience.
2. For those Rebels who cannot take action on the street, we are asking that you flood all Government Departments with complaints via phone, email, or any other means, for their failure to take a stand in the face of the sixth mass extinction.
3. Contact your local MPs to ask for their support for Rebellion. This will help defer strong police action.
4. Promote the Rebellion through all available social media channels. Here's a recommended online outreach strategy. This Rebellion is for all of us.
Help Pre-empt a Concentration of Police Resources in London and be a part of a historic moment in the British civil disobedience.
The longer version I've seen reposted on reddit has a slightly different paragraph about the ideas list:
(https://www.reddit. com/r/ExtinctionRebellion/comments/dd6cjp/calling_all_rebels_not_coming_to_london_for_the/)
which seems like a good way to get yourself pre-emptively nicked for conspiracy to [whatever they can come up with] or to prevent a breach of the peace at the very least. Better surely to not talk to the police and just pop up so that at every future XR action, the police have to be concerned about what might happen, what don't they know about. Instead they can feel confident that if no-one has told them what they're up to, nothing is going to happen and they can dispatch police to London.
edit: not sure how to change the link to just a link instead of previewing a large reddit post so I broke the link.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Its all a bit Camberwick Green in its approach to social change - XR want to achieve it, but think mistakenly that everybody is your friend, sharing a common understanding of the tragedy of the world.
im not certain there were any coppers in Camberwick, if there were, they were probably benign traffic bobbies.. Some scales have to fall away from eyes yet im afraid.
im not certain there were any coppers in Camberwick, if there were, they were probably benign traffic bobbies.. Some scales have to fall away from eyes yet im afraid.
Miss-Shelf
I'll meet you further on up the road
It will be interesting to see what happens next
