Extinction Rebellion

[editor]

they don't mention a mob of gammons

 

[8ball]

they don't mention a mob of gammons

I'm confused - it reads like the investigation was kicked off because one of the guys on the train was a Buddhist.

 

[TopCat]

Well the one that got dragged off the roof of the train got a good hiding as well.

This is a game changer. Watch the posh twats, who can afford to take time off work to sit on trains and bridges, melt away now.

Would you have joined in the beating had you been there?

 

[8ball]

It's cool, we all see words that aren't there sometimes.
Maybe you're craving bacon.

 

[Pickman's model]

Are you a driver?

no

 

[Spymaster]

they don't mention a mob of gammons

Of course they were gammons. It dioesn't fit the narrative and preconceived prejudices for them to be anything else. Working class folk would never do something like this!

 

[8ball]

no

That explains your confusion.

 

[kabbes]

I’ve arranged a meeting with the media so you can explain the nuances to them. Though I’d probably go with smaller words.

The media have a long history of intentionally misrepresenting crowd action, as it suits power to portray it as mindless rather than based on genuine grievance.

Reicher presents a pretty compelling alternative model to the Lebonian mindless mob.

Steve Reicher - Wikipedia

His analysis of the St Paul’s riot in Bristol in the early 80s served as a starting point for reinventing the way crowds are understood. Not that the media or politicians have an interest in catching up on 35 years of thought on the subject.

 

[Pickman's model]

That explains your confusion.

i am not confused

when was the last time you saw a dozen drivers get together to work in concert?

 

[TopCat]

It's that famous firm The Canning Town Gammons.

Millwall and the ICF shit themselves when they turn up.

Wearing you prat hat with pride and volume today eh?

 

[Pickman's model]

Of course they were gammons. It dioesn't fit the narrative and preconceived prejudices for them to be anything else. Working class folk would never do something like this!

i think you miss the point, which i took to be people angered by some twats on train = gammons, regardless of their age, gender, sex or indeed class. where previously gammon was applied to a certain sort of middle-aged gent, it seems to have lost all meaning if it can be so broadly applied. all that is solid melts into air.

 

[8ball]

The media have a long history of intentionally misrepresenting crowd action, as it suits power to portray it as mindless rather than based on genuine grievance.

 

[kabbes]

It still needs pointing out though

 

[8ball]

i am not confused

when was the last time you saw a dozen drivers get together to work in concert?

This is where I would also have been confused, before learning to drive (which I don't do that often).
You get loads of tiny micro-negotiations happening continuously, without which traffic would barely move at all.

Also, when you get unexpected things like eg. partly blocked roads, broken traffic lights, partial floodings etc. you get emergent 'systems' happening to keep things moving in a very similar manner to some of the things kabbes is describing.

That said, London seems to have its own special rules, which may be obfuscating things further.

Tl;dr - generally speaking, drivers are “working as a team” most of the time, though I concede that I have never seen a whole bunch of them get out of their vehicles and beat someone up

 

[8ball]

It still needs pointing out though

Fair enough - it was a good reference and example.

 

[cupid_stunt]

i think you miss the point, which i took to be people angered by some twats on train = gammons, regardless of their age, gender, sex or indeed class. where previously gammon was applied to a certain sort of middle-aged gent, it seems to have lost all meaning if it can be so broadly applied. all that is solid melts into air.

Shut it, you gammon.

 

[Spymaster]

Would you have joined in the beating had you been there?

What?

Risk spoiling my £1500 Gucci loafers?

Not a chance.

 

[8ball]

i think you miss the point, which i took to be people angered by some twats on train = gammons, regardless of their age, gender, sex or indeed class. where previously gammon was applied to a certain sort of middle-aged gent, it seems to have lost all meaning if it can be so broadly applied. all that is solid melts into air.

Since we're talking stereotypes, I'd also have associated gammons with a stereotype of drivers.

 

[Spymaster]

i think you miss the point, which i took to be people angered by some twats on train = gammons, regardless of their age, gender, sex or indeed class.

Well that's quite the point.

 

[Marty1]

Of course they were gammons. It dioesn't fit the narrative and preconceived prejudices for them to be anything else. Working class folk would never do something like this!

Sky News (Australia) reporting today with Brendan O’Neil claiming the public are now rising up against XR whom are perceived as an elitist organisation that hates the public, is against economic growth and progress.

5mins 25 in (first part discusses govts new agreed EU deal).

 

[8ball]

Sky News (Australia) reporting today with Brendan O’Neil claiming the public are now rising up against XR whom are perceived as an elitist organisation that hates the public, is against economic growth and progress.

5mins 25 in (first part discusses govts new agreed EU deal).

Well well well..

Who could have predicted such a thing?
Any breaking news on ursine defecatory practices?

 

[chilango]

There's certainly a rush to look like a prick today isn't there?

 

[8ball]

Just seen they've also been having an action at YouTube headquarters because of Big Oil sponsored videos being hosted on there.
I've politely suggested that they have a moratorium on actions involving the word 'tube' for a little bit.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

XR have run into a classic problem of all decentralised movements/ campaigns; how do you scale your cause without being subject to the vulnerability of a few people damaging the wider group with stupid actions like this?


.

 

[Marty1]

What?

Risk spoiling my £1500 Gucci loafers?

Not a chance.

I wonder what footwear the tube protestor was wearing, hopefully something of soft leather, as he did get a kick in on the guy who unceremoniously dragged him off.

 

[Teaboy]

Sky News (Australia) reporting today with Brendan O’Neil claiming the public are now rising up against XR whom are perceived as an elitist organisation that hates the public, is against economic growth and progress.

5mins 25 in (first part discusses govts new agreed EU deal).

Sky news Australia?

Himmm is there any massive industry in Australia that might have skin in the game? I wonder.

 

[8ball]

Sky news Australia?
Himmm is there any massive industry in Australia that might have skin in the game? I wonder.

Big Kangaroo.

 

[Spymaster]

Gatwick ER action cancelled.

Well done chaps!

 

[maomao]

Not a lot of gammons getting on at Canning Town before 8am. Though I suppose there could have been people who got on from suburban trains at Stratford on the train already who got off to join the mob.

 

[Spymaster]

There's certainly a rush to look like a prick today isn't there?

Yep!