Yes I saw that the Special Master has been asking unhelpful questions, like whether Trump actually declassified the documents he claimed he declassified.
Yes this is real and it’s more important and dangerous than you realise.
I think it may need a new thread. Or a different thread to this one. I’m serious.
This isn’t going away. It’s a growing faction. And it’s a growing problem. This book is becoming the foundational theology of a new movement with Trump being held up as the new messiah, and he’s going to lean into that. He’s already started giving more onvious support to the QAnon thing. He wants to use these people as his constituency so he can regain power. The election is still two years away. If he builds on his current numbers (and remember that he’s basically a travelling medicine showman) then even if he loses in 2024 his power will be consolidated.
Even if he never holds high office again he is doing below-the-water damage to America.
We can laugh (and why not, it’s risible) but don’t be fooled into thinking it’s not significant.
I could see this coming when Trump began signing bibles in red ink and no one called him on it.
Yes, it probably deserves a thread of its own.
I think plenty of us saw the writing on the wall at that point (pardon the pun but yunnow) but it was one of those things that you think “…..naaaahhh, not possible surely…. And I can’t be bothered to be laughed at for saying so… let’s wait and see… either I’m wrong or I’m right, time will tell, and hopefully I’m wrong…”
Him holding the bible up while protected by a police line was another moment.
Sometimes, some things, you just get a sense of and can’t pin it to any IRL facts.
I think it may need a new thread. Or a different thread to this one. I’m serious.
We can laugh (and why not, it’s risible) but don’t be fooled into thinking it’s not significant.
You're right. If you were paying attention in the 80s you could see what a self-involved megalomanic he was. I just didn't think anyone would be stupid enough to give him any real power. Trust the GOP to give us bigger and better stupidity than ever before.
Agree - Trump and his ilk may do funny things and IME one of the things they are least able to cope with is humour/being made a laughing stock of but overall, they stopped being something to ridicule quite some time ago when they became a real danger instead.
There is also the fact that a significantly vocal number of gop lawmakers are, and have always been, on board with this messianic lunacy. The only thing that has changed is the vessel for it.The GOP wanted to feather their own nest and he was a handy cipher for what was already happening. They didn’t have anyone on board who could be a vessel for what was already unfolding in the US, and he was greedy for bigger bigger biggest. The perfect confluence of two rivers, two sets of desires. Pure cynical zombie behaviour on both sides.
We are rehashing stuff here but it’s worth repeating cos it’s still happening and if anyone thinks otherwise they’re not paying attention. The big mistake was that the GOP didn’t realise the wider picture happening elsewhere beyone American shores, ie the larger more widespread shift towards populism and the far right. They thought it/he was an isolated aberrant situation that would be easy to control. Instead they got hold of the tiger’s tail and we are all now reaping the whirlwind. I’m using these old cliched metaphors deliberatey becasue this is an old familiar cliched story.
In some sense, this tragedy can be also be blamed on old fashioned American exceltionalism: yeah, that might happen elsewhere but we are too canny, too switched on, and much more democratic than anyone else ever anywhere! The Democracy will prevail! Americans are smart and good and wholesome people! Although this is not correct and anyone giving it some thought would have seen that, The American Dream is a powerful driving force for your society and often trumps every other consideration. Doing otherwise is to shit on the dream itself.
But it is a dream, an origin myth, a castle built on sand. It’s not real. And the further y’all move from the origin myth, the less beliveable it becomes, and so the more desperately folks try to make it happen. What else is there if the Dream fails?
Enter The Messiah.
and here we are.
There is also the fact that a significantly vocal number of gop lawmakers are, and have always been, on board with this messianic lunacy. The only thing that has changed is the vessel for it.
Oh dear my heart bleeds for him nothas he blame it on the libs trying to ruin his political career yet
of fucking course he has
New York Attorney general is suing Donald Trump and three adult children, alleged business fraud jts on Sky news now
as an aside has anyone been watching de Santis taking a act out of our own government playbook
by shipping migrates out on planes for millions of dollars and then proclaiming it as a win
of course he was more successful that Patel at getting them on planes