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enjoying a film without analysing the fuck out of it

Pingu said:
why cant some people seem to just enjoy a film for what it is.

they have to analyse it and break it down into various scenes that are then put up for discussion and compared to heavyweight Russian noir bollockywanstainstudentwankstuff type bollocks.

some films are there just to entertain. they don't have any hidden message. they are not attempting to dissect a small microcosm of society and attempt to provide a meaningful insight into its functions and the people involved in it.

Some films are just for fun and entertainment.. nothing else.
You know how sometimes some poor fool will wander into a thread and make what, to them, seems like a harmless comment (about 'chavs' or 'crips' or something), not realising that it shows up all sorts of underlying attitudes that they didn't even realise. And how when those attitudes are analysed and broken down there is all sorts of stuff there to talk about.

Well films intended just to be 'a bit of fun' can be like that too, reflecting all sorts of attitudes about culture, society and politics that the makers didn't even think was in there. But it is all the same.
 
Spandex said:
You know how sometimes some poor fool will wander into a thread and make what, to them, seems like a harmless comment (about 'chavs' or 'crips' or something), not realising that it shows up all sorts of underlying attitudes that they didn't even realise. And how when those attitudes are analysed and broken down there is all sorts of stuff there to talk about.

Well films intended just to be 'a bit of fun' can be like that too, reflecting all sorts of attitudes about culture, society and politics that the makers didn't even think was in there. But it is all the same.


OK then give me a synopsis of "The Magic Roundabout"
 
Pingu said:
OK then give me a synopsis of "The Magic Roundabout"


you're not really listening to what people are saying, are you? seems like you're just having childish snipes, to be honest
 
Belushi said:
Lots of people are obsessed with Soccer and interested in the minutest details, I'm not but I dont expect people who are interested to stop just because I find it tedious.
I do! :oops: :oops: :oops:
 
Pingu said:
i was kinda thinking

"a brief or condensed statement giving a general view of some subject"
From IMDb:
A group of friends embark on a dangerous journey in an effort to imprison their oppressor -- the evil wizard ZeeBadee.
 
Pingu said:
i was kinda thinking

"a brief or condensed statement giving a general view of some subject"

Yes you fool, a synopsis is a summary of the plot. What you are whingeing about is analysis or deconstruction. If you don't even have the basics of the vocabulary you are complaining about then it appears you seem to be merely frustrated that you don't understand what people are actually talking about.
 
And - I could actually rattle on at length about The Magic Roundabout - now there WAS a kids programme that worked on many different levels!
 
sojourner said:
And - I could actually rattle on at length about The Magic Roundabout - now there WAS a kids programme that worked on many different levels!

True :cool:
 
yay for Pingu.

I'm right with you on this.

If it's entertaining I'm happy

I don't need all these character analysis, plot analysis etc.:oops:
 
Reno said:
Yes you fool, a synopsis is a summary of the plot. What you are whingeing about is analysis or decunstrauction. If you don't even have the basics of the vocabulary you are complaining about it appears you seem to be merely frustrated that you don't understand what people are actually talking about.


what I asked for though was a synopsis...

had i wanted an in depth analysis that is what I would have asked for and given the space and time this would have required I would have been told to fuck off (understandibly IMO)

my understanding of the English language is fine and dandy thanks very much.

in a king of weird way this is exactly what I am on about. reading more into something than is actually there.
 
Pingu said:
what I asked for though was a synopsis...

had i wanted an in depth analysis that is what I would ahve asked for.

my understanding of the english language is fine and dandy thanks very much.

in a king of weird way this is exactly what I am on about. reading more into something than is actually there

Yeah, right :D


Is it a synopsis of the film you'd like or of a particular episode of the TV series ?
 
Pingu said:
what I asked for though was a synopsis...

had i wanted an in depth analysis that is what I would ahve asked for.

my understanding of the english language is fine and dandy thanks very much.

in a king of weird way this is exactly what I am on about. reading more into something than is actually there
B..b..but...you were complaining about indepth analysis, and then asked for a synopsis

It either doesn't make any joined-up sense, or you got the word wrong
 
Pingu said:
why cant some people seem to just enjoy a film for what it is.

they have to analyse it and break it down into various scenes that are then put up for discussion and compared to heavyweight Russian noir bollockywanstainstudentwankstuff type bollocks.

some films are there just to entertain. they don't have any hidden message. they are not attempting to dissect a small microcosm of society and attempt to provide a meaningful insight into its functions and the people involved in it.

Some films are just for fun and entertainment.. nothing else.

Urgh, don't have time to read the whole thread yet, but here goes.

I'm probably one of the people Pingu hates most, as I fucking love analysing films. Call it a hangover from getting too into english lit as a kid.

You're right, a great many films are just there to be taken at face value, and there's nothing inherently wrong with that. A film doesn't need complex sub-plots and existential undertonesin order to be good. But...

Fuck, some films are just so brimming over with stuff that it's impossible not to ignore. Much like with books, alot of the enjoyment from the film comes from nuances in the script, portrayal of the character, etc. Much of this will eventually spill out of the scope of the movie - it's still relevant to the plot, but isn't actually included in the film (usually for brevity and beause it bores the audience that isn't interested in tangential details).

My favourite example on this is Blade Runner, becase everyone's seen it and it's so brimming with stuff that's ripe for analysis. And yet it works well as a story in it's own right without getting involved in any of the extra-curricular stuff.

That's all it's about really; levels. Some people are interested in subject X up to level Y, some aren't. If you don't like someone waxing lyrical about how Withnail is really the homosexual agressor, then make sure you get Maid in Manhattan for your next movie night ;) Alternatively, get either yourself or your movie afficionado mate so catatonically drunk or stoned that you both meet somewhere in the middle :D
 
Pingu said:
yes.. and?

whats your point?

That its no surprise you dont like people analysing films, from your contributionsw to this thread you're coming across as not being very bright.
 
Now people, I don't agree with terms such as 'thick' and 'not bright', not in the slightest.

The world is there for us to enjoy in our different ways - I get off on analysis, lots of people don't - doesn't mean they deserve terms such as 'thick'


However, if one does make an error in one's vocabulary, on their own thread, whilst debating with people who 'know their shit' as it were, then I do think said person should accept they fucked it right up and smile with dignity


:)

What do you say Pingu?
 
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