English flag 'can provoke racism' in Wales!

[munkeeunit]

bloody hell

Don't worry ninjaboy, no-ones going to bomb you.

None of us celts at the moment anyway.

 

[kakuma]

Don't worry ninjaboy, no-ones going to bomb you.

None of us celts at the moment anyway.

 

[munkeeunit]

My post count total just passed through the eye of 1984.

phew! that was close.

Is everyone still here. Or has urban big brother taken over?

 

[RubberBuccaneer]

bloody hell

Quick, post a poll Ninja

 

[editor]

found a pic of hollis!

on a good day

Rascialistick!

 

[colacho]

Bless. Our resident Welsh-hater has popped up with some anti-Welsh sentiment, right on cue.

He really is a twerp, isn't he?

 

[colacho]

Shit, yeah you're right, there is no racism or prejudice there at all.

Oh diddums! There, there, take it easy, fanta... But do try and work out what racism actually is before your gob starts flapping all over this forum.

 

[colacho]

Before the Welsh get too dug into the rejection of Britishness, lets not forget that the crimes carried out by the British were carried out by the Welsh too, under that shared banner.

Welsh hands are dripping in the blood of empire too.

Irish tend to let the Welsh off that unsettling fact, but do not forget it either.

Ever heard of a little concept called "class"???

And yes, let's think about it, the Welsh participated in imperial adventures as, what was it?, oh yeah, cannon fodder, that's the word. Just like many, many working class English. And irish, for that matter, whose hands are equally stained by blood, if we have to use such crass images. Or else by going underground in the dark and coming up in the dark to help keep the marvellous Royal Navy chugging around the seas.

Not quite the same level of implication as those super public school types who sat around and planned all these jolly japes in London, woudn't you say?

 

[llantwit]

I dunno Colacho - we were pretty involved at lots of levels. Yes, it's true the majority were cannon fodder, but there were plenty of colonial administrators who were welsh, there were a number of welsh slavers, and we shouldn't forget Lloyd George, either.

 

[Idaho]

and we shouldn't forget Lloyd George, either.

Lloyd George alone is enough to damn the entire nation to Hades surely?

 

[RubberBuccaneer]

I dunno Colacho - we were pretty involved at lots of levels. Yes, it's true the majority were cannon fodder, but there were plenty of colonial administrators who were welsh, there were a number of welsh slavers, and we shouldn't forget Lloyd George, either.

Pirates - A lot of the top boys are Welsh.

And a lot of Black Amreicans have Welsh surnames

 

[munkeeunit]

I dunno Colacho - we were pretty involved at lots of levels. Yes, it's true the majority were cannon fodder, but there were plenty of colonial administrators who were welsh, there were a number of welsh slavers, and we shouldn't forget Lloyd George, either.

And Neil Kinnock

As for Scotland, well, the Iraq war seems to be increasingly a Scottish War waged via Downing St.

 

[Col_Buendia]

Lloyd George alone is enough to damn the entire nation to Hades surely?

Naw, that's Max Boyce you're thinking of there, mate.

 

[llantwit]

 

[dylanredefined]

you could have given us some warning about that image

 

[llantwit]

Sorry.

 

[Hollis]

Now there's a man and a half.. And the GIANT leek!

ETA:

Ooops its a daffodil.. Where's the leek then?

 

[Hollis]

Very confused.. I now take the thing next to the daffodil to be the Giant leek.

 

[ddraig]

Very confused.. I now take the thing next to the daffodil to be the Giant leek.

you can take it and shove it where daffs don't grow

 

[LilMissHissyFit]

The house opposite ours ( valleys) has a st georges cross on it
It doesnt bother me at all, I wonder whether it will stay there though and if so how long

 

[ginger_syn]

I for one will be vaguely supporting Germany, land of my birth and all that

 

[RubberBuccaneer]

Have you seen Wrexham are doing a Trinidad and Tobago car flag (on eof their palyers palyes for them )?

Smart

 

[Gentleman Taff]

we should do a Japan one for Junichi Inamoto

 

[Karac]

I dunno Colacho - we were pretty involved at lots of levels. Yes, it's true the majority were cannon fodder, but there were plenty of colonial administrators who were welsh, there were a number of welsh slavers, and we shouldn't forget Lloyd George, either.

I dunno either-the expanding "British" empire at the time needed and got middle-managers and sometimes top-managers from the Celtic nations-and the UK still does.
But Wales at that time was seen as an industrial resource for the largely English ruling class of Britain supplying the coal and steel for their imperial adventures
Lloyd George is often seen as a bad guy but he started out his days in the radical wing of the Welsh Liberal Party and was a prime mover in Cymru Fydd a Welsh home rule movement-which got fucked over in Cardiff due to the machinations of rich Bristol businessmen based there

 

[kakuma]

nationalism is all about divide and conquer, hating 'the english' for the damage that was done to walses by colonialism is completely fucking stupid, cos the same damage was done to england. the welsh middle classes got rich from it the same as the english middle classes.

nationalism is fucking mindless. it's why the welsh come in for so much stick, because you are so nationalistic and eager to promote nationalism as a social principle now, because the countries who invented nationalism have moved on, and don't mind chucking a few million into a welsh parliment or whatever since it's gonna be the same cunts anyhoo

for me, welsh nationalism came to prominence about the same time as 'the geordie nation', and people go along with it, but completely unsurprisingly it turns out that the same cunts are pulling the strings and still pulling the same shit in a slightly more crafty manner

 

[Karac]

for me, welsh nationalism came to prominence about the same time as 'the geordie nation', and people go along with it, but completely unsurprisingly it turns out that the same cunts are pulling the strings and still pulling the same shit in a slightly more crafty manner

Agree with most of your post-but where the fuck is geordie-land?

 

[kakuma]

Agree with most of your post-but where the fuck is geordie-land?

geordie nation was a money making scheme by sir John Hall to promote/exploit a sadly lacking regional pride in the north east of england

i do remember when i was growing up and geordies were seen as thuggish buffoons, not lovable buffoons, so we have made some progress

 

[Karac]

because the countries who invented nationalism have moved on

Good point-who would they be then?And have they?
Suppose your talking about England,US,Germany-or maybe China,India Japan?
Yeah no nationalism there- thank fuck

 

[kakuma]

Good point-who would they be then?And have they?
Suppose your talking about England,US,Germany-or maybe China,India Japan?
Yeah no nationalism there- thank fuck

England: successfully turned nationalism into a brand with the union jack as a corporate logo
USA: So nationalistic that they have completely trashed the ideal of america as a country where their national interests are at the mercy of the highest bidder
Germany: So nationalistic that they join every money making scheme the EU puts out
China, India and Japan are corporatised as well, nationalism is just a commodity

 

[Karac]

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