Endorset in Dorset, 2009!
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madzone
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If TP had a problem with the lighting or lack of then it's not really up to us to question it. Just because none of us did is irrelevant. However, it's also important to question what such a small festival can reasonably do. They also need to be informed of issues so that they can address them within their available resources.
moose
like some cat from Japan
Why would it be such a problem if it did, though? Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's a bad thing per se. Surely there's room for all sorts, not just people whose musical tatstes are stuck somewhere between 1980 and 1990
'77 and '82 ackshully
It wouldn't be a problem if there was that sort of thing, but having witnessed the homogenisation of festivals over recent years to the point you sometimes can't remember where the hell you are because you're amongst the same flags, the same traders, the same foodstalls, and the same acts, it's nice to find something a bit more 'niche'.
Anyway, I'll shut up now.
madzone
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But why would providing a broader range of genres of entertainment make it more mainstream or homogenised?'77 and '82 ackshully
It wouldn't be a problem if there was that sort of thing, but having witnessed the homogenisation of festivals over recent years to the point you sometimes can't remember where the hell you are because you're amongst the same flags, the same traders, the same foodstalls, and the same acts, it's nice to find something a bit more 'niche'.
Anyway, I'll shut up now.
I've been involved in the running of a local festival and it catered to all sorts of tastes without being in the least bit mainstream or homogenised.
Onket
Je suis [CONTENT REMOVED]
*awaits ban*
^ this. There are things that can be done that are 'reasonable adjustment' but it would be impossible to provide full accessibility for all people with some sort of disability, or at least the adjustments that would need to be to made to make a field on a farm fully accessible for only 3 days would probably not be classed as 'reasonable'.
Although if mobility is a problem for teeps, maybe there is scope for her taking a companion to help, hold a torch etc. If festies provided reduced price tix for companions (2 for 1 maybe) then I'm sure it would help some of those with disabilities to attend. Do any festies do this?
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
That's why I'm keen to emphasise "reasonable" adjustments. If there's money for lighting in trees (going back to teep's original observation) maybe there's some room for diverting some of that tree lighting to some ground lighting. It probably wouldn't even cost more.
madzone
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Yes, they do. As far as I'm aware even EiiD offer carer passes at their discretion.
Clint Iguana
not an undercover cop
I am amazed that anyone is complaining about the music. I did not go, I went to Boomtown, but the line up looked great to me (although perhaps not as strong as previous years).
if you are only going for the music, you get to see the line up in advance, so if you don't like it don't go!
Personally looking at the bill i would say i knew the majority of the bands and the only one i would not have fancied was sham 69.
there was a similar line up at boomtown (but for cow-punk, read ska-jazz). I loved every minute of it.
There is one minor thing though.... i am of an age where i will remember the Tofu Love frogs from first time around and can remember when Eat Static were still joined at the hip with ozric tentacles. Both festivals do have a slightly retro line up. I am not complaining about that cos it tends to be the better bands that survive, but we could do with a few new names on the scene (having said that, i did catch a few new bands this weekend, most notably Babylon Circus and i suppose the likes of Babyhead and Smerins aint really old guard). I am quite happy to keep going and watching the old stalwarts (not sure my kids are though).
I am really not sure the scene is big enough to support two festivals of such quality the same weekend though ... especially less than 100 miles apart with many bands doing both events
if you are only going for the music, you get to see the line up in advance, so if you don't like it don't go!
Personally looking at the bill i would say i knew the majority of the bands and the only one i would not have fancied was sham 69.
there was a similar line up at boomtown (but for cow-punk, read ska-jazz). I loved every minute of it.
There is one minor thing though.... i am of an age where i will remember the Tofu Love frogs from first time around and can remember when Eat Static were still joined at the hip with ozric tentacles. Both festivals do have a slightly retro line up. I am not complaining about that cos it tends to be the better bands that survive, but we could do with a few new names on the scene (having said that, i did catch a few new bands this weekend, most notably Babylon Circus and i suppose the likes of Babyhead and Smerins aint really old guard). I am quite happy to keep going and watching the old stalwarts (not sure my kids are though).
I am really not sure the scene is big enough to support two festivals of such quality the same weekend though ... especially less than 100 miles apart with many bands doing both events
The tree lighting was outside the fence, probably for security reasons rather than for any aesthetic purpose. Security is probably something they have to take very seriously in order to be granted a licence.
madzone
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Exactly.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Ah yeah, I wasn't there so wasn't sure if the trees were draped in hippy fairy lights or Stalag 13 security lights or somewhere in between tbh
Ah yeah, I wasn't there so wasn't sure if the trees were draped in hippy fairy lights or Stalag 13 security lights or somewhere in between tbh
Very few hippy fairy lights thankfully
No, the tree lights were big fuck off halogens to light up the tree belt along one edge of the main arena, which would be the ideal place for someone to sneak in if it was dark.
Are there any B & B's nearby?
No. You'd HAVE to camp
TBH, you'd miss so much if you buggered off to a B&B every night.
No. You'd HAVE to camp
TBH, you'd miss so much if you buggered off to a B&B every night.
I couldn't camp and we won't even go into the toilet issues...
It was just an idea.
I couldn't camp and we won't even go into the toilet issues...
It was just an idea.
It would be worth considering I think, but as I said you'd miss out on a lot of stuff
btw, we were talking about you at the weekend. you could take your own little toilet tent, and probably a shower tent too
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Very few hippy fairy lights thankfully
No, the tree lights were big fuck off halogens to light up the tree belt along one edge of the main arena, which would be the ideal place for someone to sneak in if it was dark.
Haha there's a commercial toss-up there re keeping people out v being a bit less scrupulous and letting them in and spend their money
Shades of Glastonbury.On the additional floor strip lighting though, I can't imagine it would break the bank.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I couldn't camp and we won't even go into the toilet issues...
It was just an idea.
Get a one man tent, and a portable camping loo. Job done.
madzone
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I thnk the letting people in thing is possibly more to do with insurance than money making. They don't strike me as being in it for the bucks.Haha there's a commercial toss-up there re keeping people out v being a bit less scrupulous and letting them in and spend their money
On the additional floor strip lighting though, I can't imagine it would break the bank.
DaRealSpoon
Do not try and bend the spoon...
You could take the B&B money and rent a camper van for the weekend (ok plus a bit more)
madzone
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Brilliant idea!
of course! we all wanted you to be there
Awww! That's nice.
Hmmm, that could be a plan I guess.
I'd still rather have a B&B with a decent bed and a nice toilet and shower though. I don't really do 'roughing it' very well.
DaRealSpoon
Do not try and bend the spoon...
Brilliant idea!
Just full of 'em me
E2A - or full of it... One of the two!
Rent one with a toilet and shower then moomoo
I wonder if it's more to do with the licence issue. Glasto nearly went under because of the fence jumpers and the difficulty getting a licence in following years without a comprehensive security plan, so I can understand why any festy organiser would be a bit twitchy and feel obliged to spend shitloads on fencing, perimeter lighting etc.
