Urban75 Home About Offline BrixtonBuzz Contact

Emergency! Emergency! Will you get the alert?

The message completely dissapeared when I clicked ok.

Surely they would want some instructions to remain present for the recipients can act on them?

Seems an oversight.
It's there in the 'previous alerts' or 'alert history' bit of the relevant menu (can't remember exactly what the menu option is called).
 
No. To show that texts and emergency alerts are delivered at different speeds. :facepalm:

SMS is sent in the idle time so it is delayed when the tower is transmitting voice data, so are delivered slower than alerts using data.

There is also not enough capacity to send that many messages simultaneously from the mobile network providers, which delays it even more.

Look it up if you are interested.
 
SMS is sent in the idle time so it is delayed when the tower is transmitting voice data, so are delivered slower than alerts using data.

There is also not enough capacity to send that many messages simultaneously from the mobile network providers, which delays it even more.

Look it up if you are interested.

i don't know about the technicalities of it all, but have recollections of some years when people sent 'happy new year' text messages to everyone at midnight, i think i got some after i'd woken up on new years day...
 
SMS is sent in the idle time so it is delayed when the tower is transmitting voice data, so are delivered slower than alerts using data.
And yet when the system is busy SMS are more likely to get through. :hmm:
There is also not enough capacity to send that many messages simultaneously from the mobile network providers, which delays it even more.

Look it up if you are interested.
Again SMS use far less data than voice or internet that people may be using so quite feasible.
 
Not sure why people are suggesting that SMS is the better option else many countries would be using that now rather than this technology. As well as the speed of being able to send out mass alerts, I imagine the main benefit is that it can send alerts to specific geographic locations which I imagine SMS doesn’t do. Yes, for this test the UK did a nationwide test but imagine in future they might be more localised.

If the government wanted to notify more people, they would have sent out the alert by post. Not everyone has a mobile phone and wouldn’t all receive an SMS. Similarly not everyone has a device capable of receiving these alerts but presumably they believe that the current reach is sufficient to get urgent alerts out much more efficiently.

 
And yet when the system is busy SMS are more likely to get through. :hmm:

Again SMS use far less data than voice or internet that people may be using so quite feasible.

They don't use any mobile data but use the voice system.

I believe in ghosts, if you want to believe that SMS is a better system go right ahead.
 
And yet when the system is busy SMS are more likely to get through. :hmm:

Again SMS use far less data than voice or internet that people may be using so quite feasible.

I don’t know but I presume they tag SMS traffic to have a lower priority thann voice. It doesn’t matter if it’s a couple of seconds late whereas obviously voice has to be delivered on time.
 
This is an interesting series of articles about the evolution of the system

Looks like there is location based SMS but no future developments were planned and it is slow so likely why they (and many other countries) don’t use it.
 
Gov data mining op - floods?

Fuck off.

have nothing to fear meself fella

sggfetv7zj931.jpg
 
Looks like there is location based SMS but no future developments were planned and it is slow so likely why they (and many other countries) don’t use it.
Per part 3 of that blog “Once the service is live there may also be pressure to extend the service to include LBSMS (Location based SMS). All I will say on this point is there are strong commercial interests in LBSMS. Implementation and operational costs are significant.”

So possibly it might be extended to SMS if the network providers get their way to make more money.
 
They don't use any mobile data but use the voice system.

I believe in ghosts, if you want to believe that SMS is a better system go right ahead.
I didn't say it was better and the GSM standards people say SMS can be used for emergency alerts. I was questioning your assertion that SMS was a lot slower comparing it to snail mail v e-mail.
 
Looks like there is location based SMS but no future developments were planned and it is slow so likely why they (and many other countries) don’t use it.
They already use it. The gov even have an app that customers can pay to use to contact potential customers. :hmm:
 
My alert happened as expected - quite an anticlimax.

Mrs C's was overridden by an alert to say that Aurora Borealis was likely visible in Fort William (unlikely at 3pm?) which is clearly more important than a risk to life event.
 
Twitter seems full of people saying the company responsible for the alert was Infosys, owner by Rishi Sunak's father-in-law, and in which Rishi's wife owns a gazillion shares. nobody seems to have actual evidence unfortunately.
 
Back
Top Bottom