Egypt anti-government protests grow

[goldenecitrone]

Naaa, he was a communist (supposedly)

He knew how to inflict far more cruelty than this muppet ever did.

He wasn't a communist. He was a cunt.

 

[embree]

Naaa, he was a communist (supposedly)

He knew how to inflict far more cruelty than this muppet ever did.

He was regarded as a friend of the West as well

 

[goldenecitrone]

He wasn't a communist. He was a cunt.

The regime he presided over was supposedly communistic.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

My knowledge of the Iranian revolution of '79 and the aftermath is pretty poor

Are there many similarities with Egypt at the mo? My reading is that an Islamic takeover is unlikely. Accurate?

It's not comparable, no. There is no spiritual leader waiting to return from exile, who would be welcomed by large numbers of people. In fact there is no clear leadership to the movement at all. But this is not an Islamic revolution, not in any way. The Islamists have been marginalised almost completely so far, from what I can tell.

 

[lizzieloo]

He was, he was just moving the army in, full of lies and waving flags.

 

[dylans]

Fuck, how depressing.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

He was, he was just moving the army in, full of lies and waving flags.

I don't think so. That speech was the speech of a desperate man, not a man with a plan.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Fuck, how depressing.

Too early to be depressed, surely?

 

[stuff_it]

There's been a plague of 'the fit policeman' across FB profiles now......shame Athena aren't around any more or he'd give the 'baby bloke' a run for his money.

/this post has been courtesy of stuff_it's Memewatch

 

[lizzieloo]

I don't think so. That speech was the speech of a desperate man, not a man with a plan.

I dunno.

 

[audiotech]

In fact there is no clear leadership to the movement at all.

Mohamed Elbaradei?

 

[quimcunx]

a desperate plan?

 

[bi0boy]

I don't think so. That speech was the speech of a desperate man, not a man with a plan.

Yep, he didn't say "right that's enough folks, you've had your fun but let me sort shit out", it was more like "erm, this is cool, all the protests, I agree with them, they're good, I'm your man...yeah?"

 

[embree]

Mohamed Elbaradei?

He wishes

 

[dylans]

Too early to be depressed, surely?

There will have to be more bloodshed now. Because a dictator refuses to accept the inevitable.

 

[audiotech]

'Mayhem, chaos and destruction. Will not allow this grip of fear to continue.'

 

[littlebabyjesus]

There will have to be more bloodshed now. Because a dictator refuses to accept the inevitable.

Yes, no doubt.

We can hope not too much more.

He could still be gone tomorrow.

 

[lizzieloo]

There will have to be more bloodshed now. Because a dictator refuses to accept the inevitable.

And he claims to love his people.

 

[dylans]

They will be facing the army now.

 

[goldenecitrone]

The people of Egypt deserve far better than what they've got now. Anyone who's ever been there will tell you what good folk they are.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

They will be facing the army now.

We'll see. We'll see what the army is prepared to do.

 

[dylans]

I've just put my bottle of champagne back in the fridge

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Reports from Cairo: People angry, feeling that the army has tricked them

 

[goldenecitrone]

I've just put my bottle of champagne back in the fridge

Don't want to experience premature jubilation.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Americans are still backing him.

"It's our hope that President Mubarak will use this moment..... blah blah blah"

John Kerry on Al J now

 

[audiotech]

US. 'We must support these regimes, because they offer stability'. Ha!

'Great respect for Mubarak.'

'Transitional phase, with US support.'

 

[littlebabyjesus]

What the FUCK has this got to do with the fucking Taliban?

 

[elbows]

Too many assumptions made this evening, the narrative got ahead of the reality somewhat. We've been quite unclear on some important aspects of the military presence since it first happened, and certain aspects of the 24 hour news coverage distorted things too. Not all dictators will run away as quickly as the Tunisian one did, far from it. Mubarak is weakened on several important fronts but his demise is not utterly assured quite yet.

I doubt he sent in troops as some sort of con, I assume the primary reason was to safeguard key locations once the police could no longer do anything. Theres been footage of a range of relations between military and the people tonight, and very little clue as to what happened to police that may have changed into civilian clothes. Certain behaviour by military in footage may also have been somewhat misrepresented by commentators. We only know a few facts from a few locations, much more may have happened tonight than we yet know.

 

[audiotech]

Obama: 'Preventing injury and loss of life. Protecting peaceful protesters. Violence and destruction will not lead to the reforms they seek.'

'Suppressing ideas will not make them go away.'

'Committed to work with the Egyptian government.'

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Totally mealy mouthed from Obama. 'We will work with the Egyptian govt' to advance the wishes of the Egyptian people. But the wishes of the Egyptian people are for the government to go!