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Dune - dir. Denis Villeneuve

I like the Lynch movie but it does has it faults. The Harkonens were panto villains rather than a sinister cunning enemy that wields wealth like a sword

The mutation of the guild navigators was taken too far.

The weirding way was swapped from martial arts to sonic weapons.

Although I did like Paul gaining such mastery of the voice that he could literally kill with a word (rather than metaphorically as in the book).
 
Bladerunner is losing money.
The fear is that yes he'll go less cerebral for fear of repeating a lack of financial sucess and gaining a reputation as a director who loses money.
I hope not but it might.

Hopefully he'll keep the costs low by losing high budget actors for talented newcomers.
 
Sicario was brilliant. Arrival maybe less so, but not a bad watch. This could be very good.

I found Sicario very nice to look at it but ultimately dull. OK we get it, they're all as bad as each other. For that to be a twist you have to not telegraph it from the very beginning of the movie.
 
The problem with a film of Dune is that without a lot of explanation, the externally visible action doesn't make any sense. Why is the future full of princes and dukes? Where are the robots and computers? Why are they fighting with knives?

Lynch's answer was to hear the actor's thoughts and have some strange sound weapons....and not worry that it didn't make sense.

Indeed. I enjoyed the film far more once I had read the book as it gave wonderful visuals to stuff that I already knew. Seeing it without that context was a bit :confused:
 
This. Herbert is explicit that Paul is a small kid barely into hiis teens. Not a chisel-jawed 6 footer in his mid-twenties like in Lynch's film. That aside I did like what he did with the Harkonnen's, amping their evilness with some physical stuff. Making them all ginger was interesting as well which they werent in the book.

Paul needs to be a 14-15 year old boy for most of it. A child that asks adult questions.

An excitable playful inquizative child who then suddenly switches into a cold hard calculating mentat-like figure with deeper far reaching concerns as his burden.

Then provide us with an adult Paul later.
 
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Denis Villeneuve continues to nail the casting for his upcoming adaptation of Frank Herbert’s sci-fi masterpiece Dune, with THR reporting that the Arrival director has now picked celebrated Swedish actor/tricky keyboard challenge Stellan Skarsgård to play one of the film’s most nastily important baddies, Baron Vladimir Harkonnen. Skarsgård joins a cast that includes Rebecca Ferguson, Dave Bautista, and Timothée Chalamet, playing the novel’s hero, Paul Atreides.
I recon Bautista is Beast Rabban or G Halleck.




thats three acting men with skarsgard or v.similar as a second name I know of ...must check if any are related..
 
' Stellan Skarsgård, an acclaimed Swedish actor, has eight (eight!) children, four of whom are actors.'
stellan and two sons, alexander and bill?
I'd only heard of Skarsgard snr today, but yes those two,, mostly Alexander for his finest hours in True Blood as eric northman
 
The whole cast for this looks excellent. I couldn't think of two better actors than Timothee Chalamet (Call Me by your Name, Lady Bird) and Rebecca Ferguson (Ilsa Faust in the Mission: Impossible movies) as Paul Atreides and Lady Jessica.
 
The whole cast for this looks excellent. I couldn't think of two better actors than Timothee Chalamet (Call Me by your Name, Lady Bird) and Rebecca Ferguson (Ilsa Faust in the Mission: Impossible movies) as Paul Atreides and Lady Jessica.
If they could find a place for Toni Collette that would make me happy. Maybe as the Reverend Mother?
 
Bautista is confirmed to be playing Rabban. The casting really is good so far.
I can't remember where I read it, but I think it's also confirmed that the story will be split over two films.

I hope that they

a) Don't whitewash the Fremen
and
b) Lean hard into the White Saviour trope, so that it can be properly subverted in the sequels (a man can dream).
 
As long as they don't unnecessarily pad out the story I can live with two films.
The main problem with the David Lynch movie was that after a great set-up, it rushed through way too much plot in the second half. New characters kept being introduced and given no time to develop or to have any impact. This needs two movies.
 
I couldn't think of two better actors than Timothee Chalamet (Call Me by your Name, Lady Bird) and Rebecca Ferguson (Ilsa Faust in the Mission: Impossible movies) as Paul Atreides and Lady Jessica.

Erm... except that she's only 12 years older than he is (and fresh faced with it), yet playing his mother? Or is that a bit of the books (dynastic use of prepubescent/perupubescent concubines) I've forgotten about?

They're both good actors I agree - and this surely isn't the only example of Hollywood wanting "older women, but not OLD WOMEN if you know what we mean" - but honestly. Really. The age gap between grumpy old male leading men and ever-youthful leading ladies is bad enough but being relegated to "mom roles" the very second they're no longer dewy fresh is perhaps even worse. There is female life between 25 and 55 - even for non-mothers!

Never had much time for Francesca Annis as an actor but I thought she carried off the 'former sexpot, turned noble lady' rather well in the former film version.
 
I'm happy to be entertained by this, but don't expect too much. I just don't think the story lends itself to film.
 
Erm... except that she's only 12 years older than he is (and fresh faced with it), yet playing his mother? Or is that a bit of the books (dynastic use of prepubescent/perupubescent concubines) I've forgotten about?

They're both good actors I agree - and this surely isn't the only example of Hollywood wanting "older women, but not OLD WOMEN if you know what we mean" - but honestly. Really. The age gap between grumpy old male leading men and ever-youthful leading ladies is bad enough but being relegated to "mom roles" the very second they're no longer dewy fresh is perhaps even worse. There is female life between 25 and 55 - even for non-mothers!

Never had much time for Francesca Annis as an actor but I thought she carried off the 'former sexpot, turned noble lady' rather well in the former film version.
Paul is 15 years old in Dune and no doubt one reason Chalamet got cast is because he looks young enough that he mostly gets cast in teenage roles. It also helps that he's probably the most acclaimed male actor of his age and he has to mature in the film. Lady Jessica is 36 and Ferguson is only one year younger.
 
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not due to 21st century earth male supremacy in Hollywood then, ok ....

You are mixing this up with the specific issue of ageing male stars demanding on-screen love interests who could be their daughters due to their vanity. That doesn't apply here because the two lead characters are a mother and son. Nicole Kidman, Jamie Lee Curtis, Glenn Close, Sandra Bullock, Sigourny Weaver, Viola Davis, Meryl Streep, Annette Bening, Michelle Pfeiffer and Julianne Moore are still getting plenty of work. Villeneuve simply cast an actress who is the age of her character.
 
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