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Dune - dir. Denis Villeneuve

you know spiderman has done some were shit over the years

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has fuck all to due with dune mind
 
it looks pretty but dull - just like BR 2049
I was frustrated because there was possibly an ok film in there, if you cut out about 45 minutes of crap. I wish fan edits of films were more common. Perhaps they are and I just don't know where to look. If I were someone with time on my hands and the editing gear and was really into BR then I'd be tempted to give it a go.
 
I was frustrated because there was possibly an ok film in there, if you cut out about 45 minutes of crap. I wish fan edits of films were more common. Perhaps they are and I just don't know where to look. If I were someone with time on my hands and the editing gear and was really into BR then I'd be tempted to give it a go.

Would trim the replicant resistance stuff, for starters.

The misogynistic future in which women are treated as commodities and disposable was certainly upsetting and controversial, but it kind of mirrors the world (or parts of it) we find ourselves in.
 
Would trim the replicant resistance stuff, for starters.

The misogynistic future in which women are treated as commodities and disposable was certainly upsetting and controversial, but it kind of mirrors the world (or parts of it) we find ourselves in.
Agreed, the replicant resistance felt like it was setting up a sequel which of course we'll never get to see. The first time I watched BR 2049 I was disappointed but it's grown on me on a rewatch.
 
Would trim the replicant resistance stuff, for starters.

The misogynistic future in which women are treated as commodities and disposable was certainly upsetting and controversial, but it kind of mirrors the world (or parts of it) we find ourselves in.
I would also just trim a lot of the long, slow shots. He thinks he's being atmospheric but he's not really good enough to pull it off most of the time and the shot ends up being boring. I'm expecting a lot of that in Dune.
 
i don’t remember what happens in the film. I just remember the lighting. i don’t think the story was compelling or even coherent to follow
 
BR 2049 was crap :D

Yep.

I dunno if it's just me getting older, more demanding from my fiction but a load of scifi films just end with, loads of shooting, blow stuff up. Can't resolve this plot line, just have them shoot each other to death.
Interesting ideas, characters. Could we explore this a bit more.. .Nope, it's guns time!... Again.

* yawn *

I will watch this of course.
 
Yep.

I dunno if it's just me getting older, more demanding from my fiction but a load of scifi films just end with, loads of shooting, blow stuff up. Can't resolve this plot line, just have them shoot each other to death.
Interesting ideas, characters. Could we explore this a bit more.. .Nope, it's guns time!... Again.

* yawn *

I will watch this of course.
Both the original Blade Runner and the sequel end with a hand to hand combat between the main protagonist and a replicant. Nothing gets blown up and both films end on a melancholy note.

The main complaint wasn't that there is too much action, but that it's too slow and boring, the same complaint which was made against the original Blade Runner.
 
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I was frustrated because there was possibly an ok film in there, if you cut out about 45 minutes of crap. I wish fan edits of films were more common. Perhaps they are and I just don't know where to look. If I were someone with time on my hands and the editing gear and was really into BR then I'd be tempted to give it a go.
I consider BR 2049 masterpiece and like most masterpieces it has a flaw because it's reaching for the stars rather than playing it safe. For me the flaw is Jared Leto. His bits are panto and add no value.

Much like the Baron's parts in Lynch's Dune were panto to be honest.

Not all protagonists need extra colour to make you root for the hero.
 
Leto was rubbish. But the worst thing was cutting open the naked newborn woman and discarding her. OK, she's not quite human but that doesn't lessen the foulness of it. The censor should have made them cut it. It should never, ever be shown, to anyone. If I was Villeneuve's wife I'd never let him come near me after that. The rest of the film was fantastic, with great parts for women. So I'm puzzled by the misogyny of that scene. I shut my eyes when I rewatch.
 
Leto was rubbish. But the worst thing was cutting open the naked newborn woman and discarding her. OK, she's not quite human but that doesn't lessen the foulness of it. The censor should have made them cut it. It should never, ever be shown, to anyone. If I was Villeneuve's wife I'd never let him come near me after that. The rest of the film was fantastic, with great parts for women. So I'm puzzled by the misogyny of that scene. I shut my eyes when I rewatch.
Pro censorship and a firm believer that all art is strictly autobiographical, I wouldn’t even know where to start !
 
t's that everything he does is done in an evil way. If he was straight he do it in an evil way, if he was Christian he'd do it in an evil way, if he made a cup of tea he'd... you get the point.
This tickled me more than it should and I'm going to try it when I next make The Baroness a cup of tea.

Milk first. Then water. And finally the tea bag.

Whilst cackling.
 
I'm also going to put cheese then beans on their jacket potatoes for dinner, and for breakfast I'm going to to put chips on their Feb, which will have hash browns and no bean dam.

Goddamit, I'm positively EVIL! 😂😂😂
 
i dont know, critics slammed the Lynch film and I think thats brilliant - best to ignore all film critics unless you happen to find a particular voice that matches your taste, and even then who cares what other people think? Reading about films before seeing them only ever spoils them one way or another IME. After watching is something else.
 
True. The funny thing about this crop of reviews is that lots of them tell the whole story at some length. Like this one ‘Dune’ Review: Spectacular and Engrossing…Until It Isn’t And I keep thinking, 'what the hell are you doing? What a waste of words'. The trouble is I still remember every detail of the Lynch film. It made a huge impression on me, and still does. Just that scene in the original edit of the navigator arriving...just that is one of the best things ever done. The design and the sound transfixed me. So I can't understand people who say the film was bad, or even people who say the book was good. OK, great story, but Herbert was such a mediocre writer.
 
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