Dune - dir. Denis Villeneuve

[Crispy]

Following Arrival and the new Blade Runner, Denis Villeneuve will add another feather to his impressive scifi hat by directing a new adaptation of Dune for Legendary Pictures.

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It's his lifetime dream project.

Could someone finally do it right?

 

[lefteri]

he's a brave man - that's two stonking great weight-of-expectation projects to take on

 

[The Octagon]

Unless they're planning a series of films, it'll be unsatisfactory as fuck.

Just make a damn TV series.

Decent pedigree behind the camera at least I suppose.

 

[Wilf]

Unless they're planning a series of films, it'll be unsatisfactory as fuck.

Just make a damn TV series.

Decent pedigree behind the camera at least I suppose.

There was a version of one of the books - maybe children of dune, second one in the series (?) - done as a series or 2 parter. Seem to remember it was okay, but nothing like as good as the Lynch film.

Suppose the thing that's difficult to translate onto screen is the internal dialogue Frank Herbert gave to his main characters (I think they used voiceovers in the Lynch film). From what I remember of the books, read 30 years ago, they shift more and more towards that inner narrative and away from action as they go through the 5 (?) books.

 

[Idaho]

The series was woeful. Utterly abysmal.

Can't see how this won't be shit to be honest. So many ways to fail, and yet just one golden path to success.

 

[Reiabuzz]

Sicario was brilliant. Arrival maybe less so, but not a bad watch. This could be very good.

 

[The Octagon]

There was a version of one of the books - maybe children of dune, second one in the series (?) - done as a series or 2 parter. Seem to remember it was okay, but nothing like as good as the Lynch film.

To be fair, that's a really low bar

Suppose the thing that's difficult to translate onto screen is the internal dialogue Frank Herbert gave to his main characters (I think they used voiceovers in the Lynch film). From what I remember of the books, read 30 years ago, they shift more and more towards that inner narrative and away from action as they go through the 5 (?) books.

Possibly, although A Song of Ice and Fire is written almost entirely through POV and internal dialogue and they've done a decent job of adapting it for TV.

 

[Reno]

The first half of the Lynch film was quite good at setting up the world and its characters and then in the second half it just rushes through lots of plot to the point of incoherence. Dune would probably benefit from splitting it into two or three films. Lynch decided to have the internal dialoge as voice overs but they weren't really neccesary.

Villeneuve is retracing the steps to of Ridley Scott backwards. After Alien, Scott worked for a long time on a Dune adaptation with art direction by HR Ginger before the project collapsed and he made Blade Runner instead.

 

[Reiabuzz]

If this spawns an update of the game even better

 

[Crispy]

Yeah definitely needs to be two or three films. The book itself is split in 3

 

[Wilf]

Possibly, although A Song of Ice and Fire is written almost entirely through POV and internal dialogue and they've done a decent job of adapting it for TV.

Yeah, but the internal dialogue and minutiae of the way characters read the wording and body language of others is a key part of Herbert's writing. I like George Martin's prose, but it doesn't have the same intensity.

 

[Reno]

Yeah, but the internal dialogue and minutiae of the way characters read the wording and body language of others is a key part of Herbert's writing. I like George Martin's prose, but it doesn't have the same intensity.

Films shouldn't merely be illustrations of books anyway. Films which are too literal an adaptation of a book are usually failures. The film makers will have to find a way to interpret the book in visual, cinematic terms rather than attempting literary devices like endless voiceovers.

Dangerous Liaisons is an excellent adaptation of Les Liaisons dangereuses and it doesn't retain the epistolary form of the novel. Jodorowsky's planned adaptation of Dune, maybe the most famous film to never be made, was going to depart significantly from the book.

 

[D'wards]

Yeah definitely needs to be two or three films. The book itself is split in 3

It is the new way i suppose - why do it in one film if you can do it in three, thanks Mr Jackson

 

[Idaho]

Films shouldn't merely be illustrations of books anyway. Films which are too literal an adaptation of a book are usually failures. The film makers will have to find a way to interpret the book in visual, cinematic terms rather than attempting literary devices like endless voiceovers.

Dangerous Liaisons is an excellent adaptation of Les Liaisons dangereuses and it doesn't retain the epistolary form of the novel. Jodorowsky's planned adaptation of Dune, maybe the most famous film to never be made, was going to depart significantly from the book.

But so much cinema is just "lead actor shows inner angst by tensing jaw"

 

[Reno]

But so much cinema is just "lead actor shows inner angst by tensing jaw"

Maybe you just need to watch better films.

 

[Idaho]

Maybe you just need to watch better films.

I'm getting old. 95% of films either annoy or bore me.

The good films just maul a perfectly coherent story just so they can be more cinematic and expressive.

 

[Reno]

I'm getting old. 95% of films either annoy or bore me.

The good films just maul a perfectly coherent story just so they can be more cinematic and expressive.

Sorry, you just aren't making sense to me. And I'm probably older than you.

 

[Orang Utan]

Uh

I'm getting old. 95% of films either annoy or bore me.

The good films just maul a perfectly coherent story just so they can be more cinematic and expressive.

The very idea! A film? Being cinematic and expressive? How very dare they?

 

[Idaho]

I find that films say more about the language and tradition of cinema than they do about life. I find them quite empty and shallow much of the time. In the case of Dune, you have a detailed and immersive story with numerous themes and ideas. A film will just turn it into a series of "big senes".

 

[Orang Utan]

But so much cinema is just "lead actor shows inner angst by tensing jaw"

Is that a bad thing? Isn't that what acting/cinema is about?

 

[Reno]

I find that films say more about the language and tradition of cinema than they do about life. I find them quite empty and shallow much of the time. In the case of Dune, you have a detailed and immersive story with numerous themes and ideas. A film will just turn it into a series of "big senes".

That entirely depends on the film makers and Villeneuve currently is one of the more interesting directors working. Film isn't just one thing, no matter how much you like to generalise about it. I didn't think Arrival was empty and shallow and that's an adaptation of an acclaimed science fiction novella. It wasn't about men with "tense jaws" and it wasn't a series of "big scenes", it was low key and thoughtful.

 

[Crispy]

Work has begun, although Denis is trying to take it slow while winding down after BR2049

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“David Lynch did an adaptation in the ’80s that has some very strong qualities. I mean, David Lynch is one of the best filmmakers alive, I have massive respect for him,” Villeneuve told us during a Facebook Live interview, noting that he was still on his first draft of the screenplay. “But when I saw his adaptation, I was impressed, but it was not what I had dreamed of, so I’m trying to make the adaptation of my dreams.” “It will not have any link with the David Lynch movie,” added Villeneuve, who said he fell in love with the classic novel when he was a teen. “I’m going back to the book, and going to the images that came out when I read it.”

 

[Idaho]

The problem with a film of Dune is that without a lot of explanation, the externally visible action doesn't make any sense. Why is the future full of princes and dukes? Where are the robots and computers? Why are they fighting with knives?

Lynch's answer was to hear the actor's thoughts and have some strange sound weapons....and not worry that it didn't make sense.

 

[TruXta]

Not everyone needs spoonfeeding.

 

[DotCommunist]

Milla Jovovich for Irulan would be nice. Glen Close for Giaus Helen Mohiam. Who do we fancy for Paul and Gurney et al

 

[Idaho]

Paul needs to be short. Gurney needs to be "a hulking brute of a man".

 

[DotCommunist]

vincent d'onorio or however you spell his name then

 

[TruXta]

Who plays the Baron?

 

[DotCommunist]

gandolfini had the gut but he died on us

 

[Gromit]

Paul needs to be short. Gurney needs to be "a hulking brute of a man".

Paul needs to be a 14-15 year old boy for most of it. A child that asks adult questions.

An excitable playful inquizative child who then suddenly switches into a cold hard calculating mentat-like figure with deeper far reaching concerns as his burden.

Then provide us with an adult Paul later.