I would guess that most people not familiar with non-league football know what a supporters trust is but conversely have no idea what a football committee is, as the idea of people volunteering to run a football club unpaid would seem odd to them in a world of football club CEOs and board members that earn up to millions of pounds.
Dulwich Hamlet vs Stonewall FC (Friendly) 11th Feb 2015
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I would guess that most people not familiar with non-league football know what a supporters trust is but conversely have no idea what a football committee is, as the idea of people volunteering to run a football club unpaid would seem odd to them in a world of football club CEOs and board members that earn up to millions of pounds.
EDC
A Slightly Less Invisible Cyber Fan These Days
Too many floodligh
Too many floodlights I'm afraid, they're only needed in the corners.I always wanted one of them for my subbuteo.
vicarofsibley
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Piece in the Guardian on Stonewall friendly: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/feb/17/dulwich-hamlet-anti-homophobia-campaign-stonewall-fc
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hiraethified
It was my mate who wrote it. Lovely chap! He's been to Champion Hill loads of times.
PartisanDulwich
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Yes another good article
I think we should be pleased with the coverage - because at Dulwich Hamlet FC its driven by the fans, not the FA or club but ordinary (well not so ordinary) fans on the terraces who hate inequality
but we should also praise other individuals and clubs, especially in non league who have also played a massive part in spearheading the anti homophobia campaign on the terraces (thinking of Bromley and of course Clapton)
As the articles state we still have a long way to go
but as stated at least LGBT fans know they will get a very warm welcome at Champion Hill
Below Bromley last season
I think we should be pleased with the coverage - because at Dulwich Hamlet FC its driven by the fans, not the FA or club but ordinary (well not so ordinary) fans on the terraces who hate inequality
but we should also praise other individuals and clubs, especially in non league who have also played a massive part in spearheading the anti homophobia campaign on the terraces (thinking of Bromley and of course Clapton)
As the articles state we still have a long way to go
but as stated at least LGBT fans know they will get a very warm welcome at Champion Hill
Below Bromley last season
EDC
A Slightly Less Invisible Cyber Fan These Days
It's a good article. However I've taken this comment from a Chelsea forum:
The other day, some poster on the Guardian described Chelsea as 'the renties'. Given that paper's ultra PC stance, I couldn't believe the comment got through. I've had countless comments deleted from that site because they 'didn't meet their standards', but homophobic insults are OK when they apply to us apparently.
Make of that what you will, I wish they'd posted a link or screenshot but I've no reason to disbelieve it. I've stated in the past that being called a Chelsea Rentboy is water off a duck's back to me, call me naive I've never before thought of it to be a homophobic chant but when you think about it, it very much is. Will the FA act upon it in future, I doubt it unless it's brought to their attention, especially as it's sung to Chelsea by their blued eyed boys Liverpool more than any others.
Sorry for the rant but to get to the point, it's only when something around us is highlighted that we become aware of it and the Anti-Homophobia campaign is treated as seriously as the Anti-Racism one.
The other day, some poster on the Guardian described Chelsea as 'the renties'. Given that paper's ultra PC stance, I couldn't believe the comment got through. I've had countless comments deleted from that site because they 'didn't meet their standards', but homophobic insults are OK when they apply to us apparently.
Make of that what you will, I wish they'd posted a link or screenshot but I've no reason to disbelieve it. I've stated in the past that being called a Chelsea Rentboy is water off a duck's back to me, call me naive I've never before thought of it to be a homophobic chant but when you think about it, it very much is. Will the FA act upon it in future, I doubt it unless it's brought to their attention, especially as it's sung to Chelsea by their blued eyed boys Liverpool more than any others.
Sorry for the rant but to get to the point, it's only when something around us is highlighted that we become aware of it and the Anti-Homophobia campaign is treated as seriously as the Anti-Racism one.
sleaterkinney
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Agreed EDC it is homophobic.
That was proper journalism for a change.
That was proper journalism for a change.
StephenMac
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Great piece. A few comments below the line (bearing in mind it's the Guardian), borne out of ignorance rather than malice I suspect, show there's still a long way to go to rid football of homophobia. Like this:
"Great stuff from Dulwich but they can do this off their own back and everyone just says (rightly) how nice it is and that is that.
The problem for Football League clubs, and for certain the Premier League clubs, is if they do something like this it will be taken as a given thereafter. So once they've done the pro-gay stuff, it won't be long before the disabled, black, Jewish, Indian communities etc will be asking 'What about me? Where's MY day then?" and if the clubs then turn round and say for whatever reason "no, sorry" then they'll be accused of picking and choosing their causes and leaving some other minority group out.
Personally I don't blame them for steering well clear. Why can't we just be happy that in 2015 blacks, gays, disabled, Indian, gingers....whatever, all of these groups are already very welcome at football matches (or at least they are for the vast majority of people) and just leave it at that?"
We'll get there if we're all up for it though.
"Great stuff from Dulwich but they can do this off their own back and everyone just says (rightly) how nice it is and that is that.
The problem for Football League clubs, and for certain the Premier League clubs, is if they do something like this it will be taken as a given thereafter. So once they've done the pro-gay stuff, it won't be long before the disabled, black, Jewish, Indian communities etc will be asking 'What about me? Where's MY day then?" and if the clubs then turn round and say for whatever reason "no, sorry" then they'll be accused of picking and choosing their causes and leaving some other minority group out.
Personally I don't blame them for steering well clear. Why can't we just be happy that in 2015 blacks, gays, disabled, Indian, gingers....whatever, all of these groups are already very welcome at football matches (or at least they are for the vast majority of people) and just leave it at that?"
We'll get there if we're all up for it though.
Thimble Queen
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Shame people have that attitude. It might be just ignorance but anyone that talks about 'pro gay stuff', refers to black people as blacks or thinks ginger is a protected characteristic (except for vornstyle76, obvs) needs to have a word with themself.
And anyway surely that's the point Dulwich Hamlet for everyone.
And anyway surely that's the point Dulwich Hamlet for everyone.
StephenMac
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Agree entirely. I'm certainly not defending him, just choosing to hope that he's out of touch rather than a conscious opponent of equality.
Thimble Queen
Called away to another place
Oh I didn't think you were, mate
.Sadly, I think there are a lot of people who are like that... You're absolutely right, we've a long way to go and will is really important...
Thimble Queen
Called away to another place
Don't think this has been shared on here yet, Brixton Blog article... http://www.brixtonblog.com/dulwich-hamlet-and-stonewall-fc-unite-to-fight-homophobia/28130
Scutta
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Another article from a Wiltshire paper!
Another article from a Wiltshire paper!
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pompeydunc
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Translated badly:
Stadium Champion Hill (3000 seats), located south of London in the borough of Southwark, is the home field of the Fisher FC and the Dulwich Hamlet, team that plays in 'Isthmian League and openly committed in the fight against homophobia.
On a cold February evening, the Hamlet has faced in the friendly Stonewall FC first team gay Britain, founded in 1991 by Aslie Pitter, and current holder of the Gay Football World Champions. The innovative friendly, unprecedented in the rest of the country, is undoubtedly the most unequivocal statement of a British club in the fight against homophobia, and best represents the idea that fans and players can coexist, and off the field regardless of sexual orientation. The game, for which the collection was donated to the Elton John AIDS Foundation, however, is only the latest event in chronological order of the route that he committed the club of Champion Hill in combating discrimination, a commitment that lasts from the beginning of the season and that is unmatched in the rest of the UK.
It all began in September 2014, when Mishi Morath, supporter and member of the Standing Committee of the club, has requested the support of Gavin Rose, manager of Dulwich, and the players in the squad. Since then the Hamlet has become one of the first non-league club (a term which refers to the football played in the series under the Premier League and the three divisions of the Football League) to support the 'Rainbow Laces Day and bring the laces in FA Cup tie against Worthing.
Civic engagement has thus become a hallmark of the club and also the fans have embraced the approach to the cause. The Dulwich Hamlet, however, remains a unique episode. No other club, in fact, with resources far superior to a reality that plays three divisions under the League Two, has emulated the London team.Although in 2013 many professional players have embraced the initiative of the rainbow laces, little progress has been made since then to counter homophobia. Most of the teams of the Premier remains passive, waiting for the change is to implement alone, in a spontaneous way.
In England, as in the rest of Italy, the professional football at club level remains refractory commitment. Many teams, in words, say they are against homophobia. But words remain. Urgently needed facts, stances: clear, defined and well riconoscoscibili. Like that of Dulwich Hamlet.
And if there were that friendly to play Juventus or Chelsea, the message would be even more effective.
Ha, thank you, I am little, but I just had the idea, and set the wheels in motion... Sometimes I have ideas that work, sometimes they don't...it's nice when they do work & help make Dulwich Hamlet Football Club stronger.
Certainly not something I'd have been able to do if I wasn't a member of the Football Club Commitee, so having to wear a tie sometimes does have it's benefits...
pompeydunc
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Nice article in the Lambeth Weekender. Made all the better as they continue to mix up Mishi as on the DHST Board. A new one though is that I work for the club...
That's fantastic.
Yeah, I feel your anger*! (*I say as someone who's not speaking for the Supporters Trust!) 
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hiraethified
I just came across this strip I did for Cardiff City twenty years ago:
http://www.urban75.org/comics/footie-shorts.html
http://www.urban75.org/comics/footie-shorts.html
No different, really, to one or two of our fans, who act the same, but scream 'You cunt, ref!', which they seem to think is ok...
Thimble Queen
Called away to another place
Great article
Misha
Also "Misha" isn't gay and didn't say she was.
