Dulwich Hamlet and Coronavirus

[Pink Panther]

Just a thought, could you charge people to view, I seem to remember the comedy club did this. Either way, thanks for all your great work.

It looks like Wealdstone are already planning to do this, so presumably no real point in our own team doing the same thing unless it's likely to make a profit:

Eight Pre-Season fixtures confirmed

We are delighted to confirm eight fixtures in our pre-season schedule ahead of the 2020/21 National League season.The action starts at Bedford Town on Saturday 22nd August before hosting two Football League clubs in successive home games.Championship survivors Luton Town visit The Vale on...

www.wealdstone-fc.com

 

[baleboy_93]

I’d be up for it if the resources were there to do it and fans would get on board, having been at Football Exclusives when we used to do the pay-for-highlights scheme I’m always a bit reluctant to charge fans, but will certainly discuss with Jam and the powers that be what they reckon!

 

[AveryDave]

Feels like you’ve got to be a detective to work out what’s going on with the men’s team at the moment. Opponents announcing our pre-season schedule, players announcing they’re leaving and the occasional interview with the SLP to express frustration with the current situation but not a lot else.

 

[Paula_G]

They should have just stuck with a simple message of "don't go abroad on holiday" in the first place. No one ever needed to go to overseas on holiday any more than I need to go to football or cricket matches.

Probably would have done but given that the arrival of the “air bridges” coincided with the Parliamentary recess...

 

[Pink Panther]

Good to see our old friend Tracey Crouch at the forefront of attempts to get things moving with the government:

 

[Cat Daisy]

Are we supposed to have done some sort of Covid19 risk assessment yet? Step 3 clubs were required to complete by 15th and I have seen at least one very well documented one that has been made public.

 

[Roger D]

I believe it was due in with the authorities by that date. Not aware of any mandate to release it publicly yet. I did hear a whisper it was being worked on internally so I don't think silence is the sign of any problem.

There would be a argument to release it a few days before the first home match so its at the forefront of attendees minds and not something they read weeks ago and have largely forgotten.

Given the pinch points that exist in the ground it would have been a challenging piece of work, many thanks to whoever undertook it.

 

[Pink Panther]

I believe it was due in with the authorities by that date. Not aware of any mandate to release it publicly yet. I did hear a whisper it was being worked on internally so I don't think silence is the sign of any problem.

There would be a argument to release it a few days before the first home match so its at the forefront of attendees minds and not something they read weeks ago and have largely forgotten.

Given the pinch points that exist in the ground it would have been a challenging piece of work, many thanks to whoever undertook it.

The main pinch points are in front of the main stand and in the south west corner. I would have thought the best solution is to direct people to only move in one direction (either clockwise or anticlockwise) around the ground. Many grounds will have the same issue.

I'm not sure making our own assessment public will serve any useful purpose, as any directive from above is likely to supersede some of it.

 

[Roger D]

I could be wrong but I believe it's an FA requirement that the document is published prior to the ground opening to spectators.

 

[Roger D]

Tier three and below are now allowed to let in fans, subject to various hoops, if anyone fancies a trip to Peckham Town, Fisher etc.

Non-league clubs at step three and below can admit fans to grounds

Fans will be allowed to attend football in the seventh tier and below, after updated guidance from the government.

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[Pink Panther]

Tier three and below are now allowed to let in fans, subject to various hoops, if anyone fancies a trip to Peckham Town, Fisher etc.

Non-league clubs at step three and below can admit fans to grounds

Fans will be allowed to attend football in the seventh tier and below, after updated guidance from the government.

www.bbc.co.uk

Good. If the Hamlet play away to any club at that level I'll be desperate to go after so long without any live sports action. Any early round FA Cup ties would be a nice bonus.

 

[editor]

And from the BBC

Fans will be allowed to attend football in the seventh tier and below, after the government updated its guidance on recreational team sport events.

Clubs in the leagues below National League North and South will be able to open their gates to spectators for the first time since the coronavirus pandemic began.

The decision means a distinction has been drawn between the return of fans to recreational sport and elite sport, where pilots are required before an intended expansion from 1 October.

It comes after more than 30 MPs wrote to sports minister Nigel Huddleston calling for the "urgent return of fans to non-league clubs".

The letter, which was coordinated by former sports minister Tracey Crouch and Dame Cheryl Gillan, warned that clubs "at the heart of our constituencies" could be "lost forever" if an exemption is not granted.

BBC Sport can reveal that the government's return to recreational team sport framework was updated on Tuesday afternoon to draw up protocols for allowing spectators in.

Fans will need to abide by social distancing rules, and spectator groups must be restricted to "discrete six-person gathering limits".

Meanwhile, organisers of events that are likely to attract a crowd will need to put forward a "named person or persons with responsibility for ensuring adherence with these guidelines and ensuring the facility is Covid-19 secure".

They would also need to publish a risk assessment limiting the number of spectators, and assist with the NHS Test and Trace scheme by collecting information from spectators.

Non-league clubs at step three and below can admit fans to grounds

Fans will be allowed to attend football in the seventh tier and below, after updated guidance from the government.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Roger D]

FA statement on the return of fans at level 3 and below due today. Hopefully we'll get more clarity on capacities betc then.

It seems the government has signed it off but not, yet, the FA. Which may cause issues for the teams who admitted fans to friendlies last night ....

 

[Pink Panther]

All being well this will be extended to our level in time for the league and cup fixtures, in which case we'll hopefully be allowed 30% of normal capacity:

Updated guidelines for return of spectators in steps three to six of National League System and tiers three to four of Women's Football Pyramid

Two-stage process to be implemented from 22 August

www.thefa.com

 

[mx wcfc]

All being well this will be extended to our level in time for the league and cup fixtures, in which case we'll hopefully be allowed 30% of normal capacity:

Updated guidelines for return of spectators in steps three to six of National League System and tiers three to four of Women's Football Pyramid

Two-stage process to be implemented from 22 August

www.thefa.com

Isn't it 30% of the minimum ground grading capacity for Step 2 though? Would that work against you? (perhaps the rule will change).

 

[Roger D]

It is currently linked to the steps minimum capacity at the steps below Hamlet. From memory Step 2 minimum capacity is 3000. The Hamlet's capacity is something like 3350.

I suspect there will be greater scrutiny at our level, and above, and that figures will be calculated for each stadium rather than an across the board %.

We shall see.

 

[Pink Panther]

Isn't it 30% of the minimum ground grading capacity for Step 2 though? Would that work against you? (perhaps the rule will change).

It would be 900-1,000 depending on whether they use the figure of 3,000 or each club's specific capacity.

Either way we're likely to be hit harder than anyone else in the division. It feels very unfair that any club with smaller than average crowds and a sugar daddy can gain a big advantage over others.

 

[TonyWalt]

Good to hear some clarification on arrangements. Maybe we will find out about ticketing and Season tickets soon now.

 

[PartisanDulwich]

Still seeing reference to 1,000 ( which will leave many disappointed) - but know our club will play this super safe all around (and rightly so)
This would no doubt include masks compulsory and hand sanitiser before going in

Controversially, singing may be out as Choirs have been a proven form of transmission


Singing, particularly in large groups for a prolonged duration, are viewed as 'more risky practice', a new paper by Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage) has found. Evidence suggests that singing can produce more aerosols, or droplet nuclei, than normal talking or breathing. These are either inhaled directly or transferred by the hands from surfaces where they have been deposited. The new document says that the smaller the particle, the further it can advance into the respiratory tract.

The authors said: 'There exists some evidence to suggest that singing can produce more aerosols than normal talking or breathing; it may be more akin to a cough.'Singing for any appreciable amount of time therefore may present a risk for the creation of infectious aerosols and allow for infection transmission.'

But singing outside with social distancing would be considered safer - but sure advice will be forthcoming

 

[Nivag]

Maybe when can use the PA system to replicate the rabble singing like they do on the telly. Jamal should be able to lift the sound off a old DHFC TV video..

 

[Cyclodunc]

erect a load of dangling keys like wind chimes.

 

[Cyclodunc]

Should really intimidate any visiting goalkeeper

 

[AveryDave]

Looks like we’re playing at VCD Athletic on Tuesday.

 

[TonyWalt]

...and they are talking about tickets!.
I was presuming any preseason games would be behind closed doors. I wonder if they will be allowing any away fans?

 

[Stuart Fordyce]

Hamlet saying they are selling tickets on behalf of VCD. Anyone been down there to know if you could watch the match in a socially distanced manner there?

 

[TonyWalt]

Hamlet saying they are selling tickets on behalf of VCD. Anyone been down there to know if you could watch the match in a socially distanced manner there?

From what I remember, there is plenty of space around the pitch. A couple of small covered stands on one side. A path around the rest of the pitch with plenty of grass behind that.

 

[Cat Daisy]

From what I remember, there is plenty of space around the pitch. A couple of small covered stands on one side. A path around the rest of the pitch with plenty of grass behind that.

And a long sloping walk down from the turnstiles & tea bar to the pitch level. Agree it feels quite a roomy ground.

 

[Stuart Fordyce]

Bought a ticket. It's only a fiver after all!

 

[baleboy_93]

If anyone can’t go we will be doing a live radio comms and highlights, as we hopefully will be for the remainder of preseason. Weren’t able to do so yesterday due to strict numbers allowed in at Spurs training ground.

 

[Roger D]

Potential changes to the planned re-admission of spectators confirmed.

Fans attending sporting events in England from October to be reviewed, says Prime Minister

Plans for spectators to attend sporting events in England from 1 October will be reviewed, Prime Minister Boris Johnson confirms.

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