Dulwich Hamlet and Coronavirus
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AveryDave
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Congratulations and thank you to everyone at the club who worked so hard to allow last night to happen. There were always going to be challenges for a first time implementing the rules and processes necessary, and from my experience it was a big success. The majority of people I saw were clearly mindful of the situation and occasion and I didn't feel at risk at any point. I think the main thing is people were able to take the precautions they thought necessary, and if that was standing apart from others at a distance they were comfortable with, there was room to do that.
I'm sure there will be lessons learned from last night, but for my part they could only improve on what was a clearly well considered and well implemented plan - thank you again to all those that put in the long hours to make it happen.
I'm sure there will be lessons learned from last night, but for my part they could only improve on what was a clearly well considered and well implemented plan - thank you again to all those that put in the long hours to make it happen.
Pink Panther
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Well, the independent review panel has asked the National League to show transparency to no avail:It seems that the National League Board are a bit upset! Strongly-worded response from them (published on Dover's website as the chairman is a member of the NL Board) but will be published elsewhere I'm sure if not already...
NATIONAL LEAGUE LETTER – DOVER ATHLETIC FC
www.doverathletic.com
Still no sign of any transparency on the funding allocation methodology; claiming that the funding was never solely on gate receipts..."Attendances and gate receipts were an element of the methodology of distribution and continue to be, but they are not the only criteria to be taken into account."
Looking forward to the further response by the noisy minority!
What exactly do they have to hide? Just publish the report so everyone can see how the decision on how to divide the lottery funding was made.
Pink Panther
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A more comprehensive statement:
Ampthill Park - The Non-League Football Paper
www.thenonleaguefootballpaper.com
Pink Panther
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Another damming report on the matter. Those responsible really aren't coming out of this very well:
www.bbc.co.uk
National League angers Bernstein over funding review
Former FA chairman David Bernstein hits out at the National League over their handling of the allocation of government funding to support clubs.
www.bbc.co.uk
PartisanDulwich
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This is getting serious
and as always the cover up is always worse
pleased our Club once again showed Leadership and challenged (with others) what is obviously a monumental disaster or worse
and as always the cover up is always worse
pleased our Club once again showed Leadership and challenged (with others) what is obviously a monumental disaster or worse
Pink Panther
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It worked with Adidas when Meadow tried to hire out Champion Hill for commercial filming after kicking us out. I think YTC masterminded that.
Nivag
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Dulwich Hamlet boss Gavin Rose: We deserve better protection – we’re taking a risk every time we train or play matches
Gavin Rose was fully supportive of Dulwich Hamlet matches going back behind closed doors – and reckons players at their level are taking greater risks because of a lack of adequate testing me…
londonnewsonline.co.uk
Nivag
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I found the furlough part odd too.
I'm guessing the players would rather stay and get paid 80% than actually play football.
Pink Panther
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I think the football authorities and some managers are looking at all this from completely the wrong perspective. Never mind whether or not our level should have been designed as "elite". Surely it makes no sense for the National Division or the two lowest divisions of the Football League to play out the season in front of empty stadiums? It must be costing a fortune with no paying spectators. Where on earth is all the money coming from, and is it a wise use of funds?Dulwich Hamlet boss Gavin Rose: We deserve better protection – we’re taking a risk every time we train or play matches
Gavin Rose was fully supportive of Dulwich Hamlet matches going back behind closed doors – and reckons players at their level are taking greater risks because of a lack of adequate testing me…
I listened to a lengthy online interview with Dorking Wanderers chairman-manager Marc White last week. He made some interesting points, emphasising that clubs at our level are very much businesses which is fair enough. He reckons it would cost each club £7-£8k a month to implement the sort of weekly routine testing needed to offer the level of protection Gavin Rose is talking about. White also suggested that any club that can't afford to spend that is probably playing beyond its natural level. Hang on, that figure accounts for approximately 25% of the National Lottery funding package. No one will have budgeted to spend that money at the start of the season, or to play for so long without matchday revenue, and many clubs including our own will already be out of pocket due to losses not being covered by the funding package.
If it's still not safe or practical to have supporters in the ground three months after the season started it's time to cancel the season, or at the very least suspend all fixtures and furlough the players until such time as supporters can return. What on earth is the point in spunking thousands of pounds a month on testing players so they can play in empty grounds?
Stuart Fordyce
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Was that not the Case with a few last year? Rightly and legally held them to contract rather than risk unemployment which is what we're talking about here?
I think that was when we couldn't play ourselves.
Not necessarily questioning any decisions just interested to know how it all works.
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Pink Panther
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It's not Tier 4 causing all the postponements, it's positive virus tests within (at the last count) 8 different squads in the division. We're still due to play at Hampton tomorrow.
TonyWalt
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I’m surprised we have got this far without Covid itself putting a stop to loads of fixtures as it now has.
I wonder what the teams do now? Continue to train, with no testing and putting themselves and families at risk, whilst hoping that their next fixture isn’t going to be postponed?
I don’t agree with the: what’s the point of playing with no fans in the stadiums, argument. With the live streams on YouTube and the ever brilliant radio commentary from Tom Bale, fans are STILL able to enjoy the trials and tribulations of supporting Dulwich Hamlet. Giving structure and interest to the week, leading up to KO, when for 90minutes we can engross ourselves in the wonder of this game we all love. In these pretty dark days, that’s something precious.
Elite or not though, unless clubs can afford to get their players and staff regularly tested, or better still: this stupid government had got testing sorted out (by now) so that people ARE allowed to get a test WITHOUT them showing symptoms (which you are not allowed to do, tho they keep telling us 1 in 3 people with covid are a-symptomatic)...we should just freeze the season and it’s fixtures for now imo.
I meant that players can't drop down to step three to play, whether on loan or permanent. No football is permitted in tier four, with the exception of elite football.
The club will be paying 100% of salary with 80% reclaimed. That's how all contracts were honoured last season.
Pink Panther
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Ah OK, I'm with you now.
This tiers thing is hopeless for football. It's totally impractical for clubs in different areas or at different levels, playing in the same competitions, to keep going under different rules. (Look at the farce with the Maidstone v Frome FA Trophy tie.) The FA and National League have led with inertia throughout.
pompeydunc
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If that's correct, it's a shocking waste of taxpayers money. Surely it should not be permitted to furlough players that are not playing? They are still part of the squad and our club is operating, rightly or wrongly.
It creates a false incentive to roll the dice and sign more players to replace non-performing contracted players if we know the government are going to pick up 80% of their contract.
As for testing players at this level, then GR needs a reality check. We are a non-league club, and not a club with TV and significant commercial income. No way routine testing can be afforded, and even if there was money kicking around, then there are many other items this would be better spent on. Testing is not offered for people in most normal jobs. Why should a non-league footballer be different?
Pink Panther
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It's not surprising that GR or other individual managers get carried away with the whole "elite sports" thing. I can't imagine how much time and energy they must devote to their roles and it must be something of a rat race when you reach this level. They now believe they should have these things because they've seen it happening at the next level above, which they themselves aspire to reach.
I blame the various authorities for allowing the situation to develop in the first place: leagues, the FA, the government. These are the people with the authority to put a stop to it. All this nonsense began at the start of the pandemic with people demanding play-offs and promotion (and consequently relegation) even though the league fixtures hadn't been completed. There simply isn't a commercial justification for playing more than a few games behind closed doors once you get more than one level below the Premier League.
Pink Panther
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Regarding the proposalfor weekly testing of players, it appears that the Football League has only been carrying out "targeted testing" as mentioned towards the end of this article:
www.bbc.co.uk
During last night's football commentary on Radio 5 it was mentioned that all Football League squads were tested during pre-season but most have only been tested once or twice since. The logistics and cost of testing over 150 squads of players, i.e. every elite club from the Premier League down to our level, on a weekly basis would be a vast increase on what's been in place so far. That's got to be close to 4,000 personnel in total with coaching and medical staff and once again I'd question whether that's a wise use of resources.
Allardyce wants break as Covid cases rise
West Brom boss Sam Allardyce says football needs a break after the Premier League returns its highest number of positive coronavirus tests.
www.bbc.co.uk
During last night's football commentary on Radio 5 it was mentioned that all Football League squads were tested during pre-season but most have only been tested once or twice since. The logistics and cost of testing over 150 squads of players, i.e. every elite club from the Premier League down to our level, on a weekly basis would be a vast increase on what's been in place so far. That's got to be close to 4,000 personnel in total with coaching and medical staff and once again I'd question whether that's a wise use of resources.
We're about to enter the New Year and we've just about played about 1/4 of our league matches for the season. This leaves us 30 games left to play. If we play twice a week, every week from now on we'll finish the season in mid-April. With little prospect of things getting better until Easter, January weather to come and games being cancelled all over the place with positive test results, it must be very dubious that we'll manage to complete the season unless we run into the early summer again. I really don't think the season should have ever started!
Former Wolves winger signs for Dulwich Hamlet
Dulwich Hamlet have signed former Wolves winger Andrew Jay Harris-Sealy. The National League South side have agreed a sell-on with the 22-year-old’s previous club Farnborough.
londonnewsonline.co.uk
Hmmm
Stuart Fordyce
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Just when we have a vaguely settled team and performances are on the up? I'd like to see us sign Vint longer term mind you, at 24 he can play a lot of football for us.Former Wolves winger signs for Dulwich Hamlet
Dulwich Hamlet have signed former Wolves winger Andrew Jay Harris-Sealy. The National League South side have agreed a sell-on with the 22-year-old’s previous club Farnborough.
Hmmm
The new one
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The new one
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Would be a good signing for us looking good at the club. Let’s all hope for a great new year. For everyone team and most importantly to all the fans 
Former Wolves winger signs for Dulwich Hamlet
Dulwich Hamlet have signed former Wolves winger Andrew Jay Harris-Sealy. The National League South side have agreed a sell-on with the 22-year-old’s previous club Farnborough.
londonnewsonline.co.uk
“We’re looking to add another three or four to the changing room in the next week or two but we have to look at moving boys on or furloughing them.”
Good grief!!!
