DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
I think they were the splinter group targeting Jack Ryan and his family in Patriot Games
Dugin's daughter killed in car bomb attack
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seventh bullet
sovietwave
She was a 'player' as much as her father is when it comes to Putin. He has power, and they were/are outside of its orbit. The bomb was probably meant for him, but on the orders of the above? He's a speck of dust. She was working her privileged non-job (due to daddy's networking) for people connected to the boss of the Wagner security company/mercenary org. Maybe internal feuding, or a message to them?
The western media needs to stop lazily googling for five minutes when it comes to Putin, Dugin and this heterogenous ideology called Eurasianism. The 'analysis' from the BBC has been embarrassing.
Fascists are scum right? But that photo of an anguished Dugin stood feet away from his daughter's burning body in that car. I can't find pleasure in that.
The western media needs to stop lazily googling for five minutes when it comes to Putin, Dugin and this heterogenous ideology called Eurasianism. The 'analysis' from the BBC has been embarrassing.
Fascists are scum right? But that photo of an anguished Dugin stood feet away from his daughter's burning body in that car. I can't find pleasure in that.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Yeah I kinda see him almost like Jordan Peterson or someone, popular among a subset of people and even a part of academia/ the elite, on the radical right but not with any real influence of his own
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
my money's on heart attack
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
Reasonably so.
There is a stirring statement attributed to them attached to this Tweet from former MP Ponomaryov.
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@wartranslated: ❗️ Russian ex-MP Ilya Ponomaryov in his interview to Ukrainian channel "Utro Fevralya" said Darya Dugina was killed by Russian partisans from the National Republican Army. He says both Dugin and his ...…
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Dom Traynor
Tino Pai
I thought that was the Ulster Liberation Army?
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
In the book but don't think it had a name in the film
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i thought it showed a good spirit not to detonate the bomb until some way outside the city limits
Dogsauce
I’ve got Skol but I’m not a Scholar
Apparently the reporting of this on Ukrainian media involves having to explain to people who Dugin is, so he’s not a widely-known bogeyman there. Does seem doubtful that they’d bother.
It’s also reported that CCTV cameras covering the car park where it happened were deactivated two weeks ago. If true, that doesn’t smell like partisans/foreign hitmen.
It’s also reported that CCTV cameras covering the car park where it happened were deactivated two weeks ago. If true, that doesn’t smell like partisans/foreign hitmen.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I agree. It does Ukraine far more good to be offing senior military personnel, airbases, ammunition dumps and logistics than going after fairly marginal - at least from their point of view - political figures, whose demise makes little difference to their situation. I guess, given a juicy opportunity, they might go after a defence minister or senior staff officer, but this one would seem futile from their position.
Although it was an absolutely nailed-on, cast-iron, gold-plated certainty that Russia would blame them. Russia is probably blaming them for the legendary and endemic shortage of bath plugs and sanitaryware in Russia, too.
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
Ukraine is the biggest manufacturer of bath plugs in the world, producing even more than China on an annual basis. Not a lot of people know that.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
But if Dugin is really a more marginal character than we think, how do the Russian securocrats gain anything from having him terminated with extreme prejudice? It really does seem that it would be CIA spooks who would pick him as a target, but how that might be consistent with the CCTV being off (last time I remember that was Billy Wright's killing in the Maze) I don't know.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
This is barmy . Ukraine makes an official statement distancing itself from the Dugin death " we are not a terrosrist state" only to find that mate of the Special Correspondent at The Kiev Post is announcing that he is in contact with those who did it and backing them.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Be careful of Ilya Pomoranev.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Shit. Shit. If the west is trying to back "contra" forces in Russia, then at best this means pure hell for the Russian opposition, who can be bad-jacketed as terrorists and foreign agents, and at worst it could mean civil war in Russia itself.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
happy days are here again
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
The hunt is on
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Imo this is about as plausible as finding those random chechens who killed Boris Nemtsov tbh, might well not be Putin but if its not I don't think they have any more of a clue than we do. They've got form for finding random people who conveniently have Nazi or Islamist flags stuffed about etc when either they want to cover something up or don't know who did it
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
Yeah I believe it about as much as I believe Ukraine is the worlds biggest manufacturer of bath plugs.
Absolute horseshit.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Tbh I am wary of a lot of stuff printed in the Kiev Post after finding out that Jay Beecher writes for them as well
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
I really, really don't think 'the west' did this, some European companies are already ignoring sanctions and even the most hawkish are kinda desperate for 'Russia should go away and shut up'
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
I don’t think there is any conceivable situation when serious Russian opposition wouldn’t be labelled as terrorists and foreign agents. Fake anti-imperialists/‘multipolarists’ would be queuing up to denounce them as CIA stooges.