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Dodgy looking Poles marching in London for "Doomed Soldiers Memorial Day"

Divisive Cotton

Now I just have my toy soldiers
I don't think they are fascists just nutty nationalists of which Poland seems to have a lot of these days:

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More pics here: http://www.demotix.com/news/1839033/londons-poles-mark-doomed-soldiers-memorial-day-trafalgar-square
 
There's no anti fascist flags that I could see and seeing as they wrecked the country, you would have thought some of their ire would be directed at their occupiers from 1939 - 1945. Just anti communist flags. :hmm:
 
debatable frankly russians hung around much longer and did poland no favours either.

churchill summed stalin up perfectly if herr hitler invaded hell I'm sure I could find some nice words for the devil:(
 
- the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and its secret Protocol for the partition of Poland
- the invasion and occupation in September 1939 of Eastern Poland, an area containing eight out of sixteen Poland's prewar provinces and representing 52 percent of Polish soil with over 13 million people
- the consequent breaking of two bilateral treaties with Poland, namely - the 1921 Treaty of Riga and the 1932 Polish-Soviet Non-Aggression Pact, renewed in 1934 for an additional ten years; moreover, as a member [since 1934] of the League of Nations, the Soviet Union violated at least three multilateral pacts as well
- the gratuitous handing over of Wilno and the Wilno region to Lithuania in exchange for allowing the Soviets to have military bases in that country
- the rigged plebiscites on the basis of which the occupied Polish territories were incorporated into the Belorussian SSR and the Ukrainian SSR
- the wholesale looting of Polish raw materials, agricultural produce and both movable and immovable goods to Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union
- the wrecking of the Polish economy and the banking system
- the subversion of the Polish educational system, the arts, and the free press
- the trampling underfoot of human rights, including the freedoms of free speech, assembly and worship
- the confiscation of all Polish private and state landed property
- the exorbitant taxation without representation
- the four massive and other, less-known smaller deportations of entire Polish families to the gulag
- the massive arrests of so-called counterrevolutionaries and anti-Soviet elements
- the internment of Polish POWs in forced-labour camps in occupied Eastern Poland and the USSR
- the 1940 cold-blooded execution and burial in ground pits in Katyn, Mednoye and Kharkov of 21 857 Polish prisoners [this exact number of those murdered comes from a 1959 KGB memorandum from Aleksandr Shelepin to Nikita Khruschev and represents the total number of executions during the April-May 1940 action, including 7300 persons murdered in Belorussia and Ukraine]. The relatives of the victims in the Soviet-occupied part of Poland were subjected to one of the most severe repressions - deportation to the gulag. In postwar Poland, they were not allowed to speak of the manner in which their loved ones died, and had to mourn them in complete silence
- the ground pits, filled with Polish corpses, recently-discovered near Tavda and Tomsk, east of the Ural Mountains
- the forced 'death marches' to the interior of the Soviet Union following the June 1941 Nazi invasion
- the massive, cold-blooded executions of thousands of prisoners in occupied Eastern Poland in the first days of that invasion
- the establishment of a communist party in Nazi-occupied Poland in early 1942 with orders to destabilize the Polish Underground by denouncing its members to the Gestapo
- the Moscow 1943 order to combat the Polish Underground with "every possible means"
- the establishment in 1943 of the Moscow-based Union of Polish Patriots to take over the Polish government after the war
- the deliberate withholding of material and military assistance to the defenders of Warsaw during the 1944 uprising
- Stalin's 1944 order to liquidate the members of all Polish Underground forces, which resulted in the execution of thousands of Polish soldiers and the arrest and deportation of tens of thousands to the interior of the Soviet Union
- the luring of sixteen Polish leaders to Moscow in March, 1945 and their show trial​
These, and similar Soviet actions cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of Polish citizens throughout the war and caused indescribable pain and sufferings to millions more. Such a terrible physical and psychological reign of terror has seldom been witnessed in the annals of human history. Its main objective, no doubt, was nothing less than the complete destruction of the sociocultural life of the twenty year old Second Republic of Poland. Yet as of today, sixty years after the end of the Second World War, not a single Russian official or researcher that can be named, has had the courage to own up to the fact that during the Second World War the Soviet Union was no better than Nazi Germany; that it was in large measure responsible for the outbreak of the Second World War; and that its sinister ideology continued to plague the world, and Poland in particular, for years after that war was over.
http://electronicmuseum.ca/Poland-WW2/soviet_crimes/soviet_crimes_eng.html
 
These people Patria Fidelis are based in Ealing the highest concentration of Poles in the country - some from right-wing areas in Poland, hence a base.

Occasionally they do stuff like "anti-abortion" firewall protests outside reproductive service centres offering services to Polish women. Britain is (after Germany, I believe) the number two choice for Polish women with money, an abortion is very difficult in Poland, much harder even than Ireland or Portugal. Anti-abortionism is even a vote-winning approach in government there.

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Notice the map eats into parts of Belarus, a marker of their revanchism. The Powstanie Wielko-polskie is the heavily mythologised Greater Poland Uprising - in fact a bitter nationalist movement of (anti-Bolshevik) army figures against Germans in the West and Belarusians in the East to re-establish a stronger, larger (landlord-heavy, drive out the Germans to give new land for the Polish poor) Poland during the Versailles Treaty period.

Sadly, because the government no longer funds any kind of second language education, (money for multicultural grants is often simply to patch up social services for the disabled or elderly) these people also do a lot of Polish language supplementary schools for young Polish children and have their own youth theatre groups - themes of their productions the usual folkloric stories and history plays about Roman Dmowski, Marshal Pilsudski, the Home Army during WW2 and the CIA-backed insurgents of the 1940s and 50s against the PUWP, which is what the protest in OP is about.

As J Ed points out their kinds of ideas - such as demanding trial, imprisonment and for SLD or even PSP politicians supposedly tainted by association with Communism (often ordinary functionaries teachers or civil servants) - match perfectly with those of the actual far-right back in Poland. Of course they claim they are non-political in a sense yes no party - just Catholic, Polish and traditional.

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Joe's purges did take in a lot lot lotta people though and thats before you have considered the ukranian famine which the solution to seemed to be 'execute suspected hoarders'

But yes, on balance the nazis were worse
 
Only if you're a complete fuckwit and know nothing of how the Nazis invaded Poland, treated Polish like sub humans, levelled Warsaw and killed millions of them.
 
Only if you're a complete fuckwit and know nothing of how the Nazis invaded Poland, treated Polish like sub humans, levelled Warsaw and killed millions of them.
These bunch of dodgy fuckers aside I think you have to appreciate the deep level of anti-communist feeling amongst many people in Poland and other eastern European countries. The Nazi 'pain' lasted the period of the war, the communist 'pain' lasted for decades. It is more recent and pronounced and deep rooted in the day to day lives of all Poles. There is still to some extent a genuine fear of Russia.

I guess the long term legacy of having the Catholic church and suppressed nationalist sentiment as agents of opposition to communist oppression is these kind of outings.
 
Only if you're a complete fuckwit and know nothing of how the Nazis invaded Poland, treated Polish like sub humans, levelled Warsaw and killed millions of them.
you must have missed the nazi-soviet pact which saw the russians invade the eastern half of poland and the germans invade the western half: two years before hitler invaded the soviet union. perhaps you're a complete fuckwit and know nothing of how the soviets invaded poland, deported fuck loads of poles, shot a load at katyn and then after war oversaw a 45 year stalinist state.

perhaps not.
 
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