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It's "guys", not "guise".
Vintage Paw
dead stare and computer glare
'tis "internet speak"
How does wood and oxygen protect against solar fire?
Callum91
Let them eat cock
I always had oxygen down as being flammable... Also, if so much oxygen had been pumped into the atmosphere by the trees, surely the composition of the air we breath would have changed and become toxic to us humans? A good episode but required even more suspension of disbelief than the Moon being a fecking, gigantic, fuck off xeno-insect egg.
Edit: Also, realistically, how many trees could have been sprayed with the defoliant in the time frame provided? Enough to prevent the ''airbag'' effect of all the trees? The concept of the episode was fantastic but it felt far, far too rushed to work properly. To me it was a two part episode they (attempted) to cram into the one and it didn't quite work...
Edit: Also, realistically, how many trees could have been sprayed with the defoliant in the time frame provided? Enough to prevent the ''airbag'' effect of all the trees? The concept of the episode was fantastic but it felt far, far too rushed to work properly. To me it was a two part episode they (attempted) to cram into the one and it didn't quite work...
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I find Clara a really dull character. The drama between her and the Doc seems to be shoehorned in to provide, well, drama, but is pointless really, and her boyfriend is equally dull but has a nasty, passive aggressive controlling side. They'll probably be very happy together after she leaves the Tardis which hopefully will be soon.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Oxygen is actually quite good for you.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Anything, in the right concentration, is toxic. True of water, so imagine it's true of oxygen too.
Plus, you'd get well high first.
Why would the world's nations listen to a maverick broadcast made by a 6 year old kid? Experienced climate scientists are already shunned by the powers that be.
This episode isn't as enjoyable as the speculation about the reality of the situation!
How does a broadcast even get heard when the solar flare would have wiped out all satellite networks and electronic systems, plunging the world back into the dark ages?
How did the sister get rescued and why was she literally hiding in the bush outside her house?
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Supposedly all the excess oxygen was going to burn away, thus dissipating the energy of the solar flare; but oxygen doesn't burn as such. Combustion is basically exothermic oxidation of a fuel source, oxygen is required for the reaction but you also need fuel. Fuel like a planet full of trees for example. Given that all that wood will release lots more energy when provided with the activation energy needed for combustion, and an increased concentration of oxygen will increase the rate of the reaction, I'd say filling up the planet with wood and oxygen would be the worst possible way to dissipate thermal energy.
Maybe the trees were somehow producing lots of extra ozone (an allotrope of oxygen) to absorb more EM-spectrum radiation, but ozone is highly toxic so producing it at ground level would be problematic.
Surely pumping fire into super oxygenated air would have been catastrophic?
Because...magic trees!
Burning that amoutn of wood would turn the atmosphere, what's left of it, into a greenhouse with all the carbon?
A scientifically realistic version of that story would have been a million times better!
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
It is admittedly shaky at best, but weren't the leaves fireproof, so the oxygen burns up the solar flare/energy but the canopy of leaves protects everyone underneath it?
Which does of course beg the question, why do you need the oxygen if the leaves will protect you...?
Which does of course beg the question, why do you need the oxygen if the leaves will protect you...?
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
It seems like she'd run away but was convinced to come back by the little girl's phone message. She can't have been far away though if she managed to come home, presumably on foot, through a massive scary forest, in the space of maybe half an hour.
I did like the idea of just plonking a taxi, some traffic lights and a phone box in some woodland and thus creating 'london taken over by trees'. That's proper old school Doctor Who production values.
It was pumped into the upper atmosphere by plot magics so it would burn up there rendering the flare harmless. A better question is how many generations of birth defects is the widespread use of defoliants on populated areas going to leave in its wake.
binka
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it was a terrible story so im glad they didn't stretch it out anymore.
couple of duff episodes this series however they are still enjoyable to watch because of capaldi
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
When those blokes tried to burn the trees, apparently they didn't burn because they were withholding oxygen. Trees can't really do that but let's stick with it anyway. When it comes to saving the whole planet from getting burnt up however, the trees' plan is to make loads more oxygen to somehow cushion the Earth against the solar flare. I suppose they couldn't suck up all the oxygen from the atmosphere, because doing so would kill everything.
There's also the small matter of CO2. That many trees all photosynthesising would soak up all the CO2 in the atmosphere pretty quickly, in fact they'd have to produce oxygen. Human respiratory systems need CO2 to function properly, it's what tells us when we need to breathe. An atmosphere with no CO2 in it would be deadly. We'd all suffocate in oxygen-saturated air, perhaps using our last moments to contemplate the irony of that.
Clara should be killed by the Timelords, the way Peri was in Trial of a Timelord ("the crime is fashion, doctor - and this court finds you guilty!")
I don't agree that Danny is manipulative, he's just a thinly developed plot device. Plus she trets him like crap - like Amy did. It's the same new Who feisty female formula.
I don't agree that Danny is manipulative, he's just a thinly developed plot device. Plus she trets him like crap - like Amy did. It's the same new Who feisty female formula.
Perhaps that's where we get legends of Trolls and Ogres from!
If this forest defence system is only remembered in the collective unconsciousness as legend and myth, then perhaps that explains myth creatures.
Like a weird Shadowrun.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
I don't think there is a realistic explanation for loads of trees growing everwhere at once, but they could have nodded in the direction of actual science. That's how good sci-fi works, instead of everything happening by magic you take a real scientific principle and bend it round a bit to justify something impossible. Using oxygen to fireproof something just flies in the face of basic secondary-school science.
Dr Who doesn't tell stories anymore anyway. It's just a bizarre premise filtered through a modern BBC lens with some wacky dialog. Capaldi having to carry this shit is just embarassing.
binka
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i don't really want to rewatch the episode but i suppose they showed the trees witholding oxygen. perhaps they meant that after the solar flare had burned off the earth's atmosphere the trees would release the oxygen to replace that which was lost? no im not satisfied with that answer either!
weakest episode of this series, and the least enjoyable (which isn't always the same thing).
Hey ho, the rest have been great so far though
Hey ho, the rest have been great so far though
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
I liked it. Last week was hard to follow. This was merely good.
As for sense, none of it makes sense.
As for sense, none of it makes sense.
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
very meh i thought. London covered in trees was cool - thought it was going to be all post apocalyptic - but it descended into mushy silliness. Not scary, no dramatic tension, and - like the moon egg - not enough realism to make the fantasy credible. And this time the sparky dialouge and capaldi's charisma weren't enough to save the story.
He has a DeLorean
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
total bollocks, two quid word coming out of a 50p mouth. Those monsters from flatland were 100% \who gold. If you don't agree you are not a real who fan
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