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Doctor Who Series 8

Was there a leetle frisson between the Doctor and Journey at the end?

Two quite weak episodes so far. The second was a bit better. And it had Tyres from Spaced in who I love.

I really like the Welcome To Heaven lady. She's been in it before, with an eye patch, right?
 
Was there a leetle frisson between the Doctor and Journey at the end?

Two quite weak episodes so far. The second was a bit better. And it had Tyres from Spaced in who I love.

I really like the Welcome To Heaven lady. She's been in it before, with an eye patch, right?
madame korvakian (edit - korvarian) ? no - completely different actress. this is Michelle Gomez, the other was Frances Barber (best part of ten years older).
 
I thought the smith/pond story was absolute shite so I guess I'll be giving this a miss.

The current dynamic is very different, and Capaldi is very, very different. I'd check the second episode of this current series out, unless you are happy to dismiss something with no actual knowledge of it.
 
I thought the smith/pond story was absolute shite so I guess I'll be giving this a miss.
it's too early to judge the arc, but the two episodes so far... the dynamic and characterisation... it feels like a different show to the Smith/pond years. That always felt like an over-funded CBBC programme. This feels like proper quality family drama.
 
they can't keep turning baddies good, strax, rusty. Whats next, friendly cybermen?
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there was due to be a brief beheading in tonights show but its been cut by the prog makers due to recent circumstance. It'll probably turn up as a dvd extra at some point
 
erk, Freudian slip eh. At least I didn't say the episode was truncated eh!

Vintage Paw

did you see this article, I thought it tied slightly with what we discussed earlier when you were talking about Moffat the prophet's contempt for Who's teenage female fans.

That's an excellent piece. I think there's an element of being torn for Moffat, because on the one hand he courts and wants the screaming teenage fans who come to the photo ops because they help drive the hype, they buy the merch, and they are a sign of the broad success of the show. At the same time, he hates that they have a voice, because an awful lot of them are very on point about such things as his sexism, and he'd rather they just watch the show, buy the merch, and not talk about it in any kind of critical way all over tumblr. But you can't have one without the other. Hence I think he's conflicted.

I admit to being happy there was an older doctor, but I don't think it was quite in line with how the article put it. It's interesting the article didn't talk about eleven, and it's eleven that bugged me a lot (I am a big fan of ten and his trials and tribulations). Smith was the youngest doctor actor we've had, and even despite his hours in old man makeup I never got the feeling he was the oldest doctor so far. Whenever he talked about things he'd done in the past that had weighed on him, I never felt convinced, it never felt like it informed his actions and thinking to the extent it did ten. He came across as the fun-time-boy with - most of the time - nary a care in the world. Now, that could have worked beautifully, had there been more exploration of that carefree prankster exterior being a facade or a way of coping, but there really wasn't. He was the doctor of no consequences (something that I think thematically ties into the way Moffat's season plots come together so nicely in little hermetically sealed bubbles).

So I was excited about Capaldi, 1) because he's Capaldi, and 2) because I couldn't see him acting the prankster like Smith, I could see him bringing more conflict and depth while holding onto some subtle comedy. I admit it's easy to conflate that childish boy-doctor with the onslaught of teenage girl fans and start to imagine that fangirling is also a problem, but it's only a problem for Moffat and grumpy old cunts who want their Who like it was in the 70s. But if focus is kept on the characters of eleven and twelve I think you can have a decent discussion about the 'maturity' of the doctor and of the show without it needing to say anything about the fans.

And anyway, tumblr fucking loves Capaldi. Those teens aren't going anywhere.
 
A sample of one. My teenage niece likes 10,11 and 12 as well as genesis of the daleks and tomb of the cybermen. Perhaps she has the hots for Baker and Troughton.
 
This is a bit weak so far. If a load of cybermen don't turn up fast, I'm going to be very disappointed.
 
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