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Desert island discs
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Kaka Tim
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Some of the Sue Lawley ones are inadvertantly compelling listening - Paul Whitehouse winds her up, picking the Pistols "God Save the Queen" ("you enjoyed that didn't you Sue?") and leaving her tutting in incomprehension when he talks proudly of ditching his degree course to become a plasterer.
Lynton Kwesi Johnson is more confrontational - refusing to row back on his opinion of the Brixton riots as an uprising and his contempt for the police - and it quite clear he feels the same about her.
Kirsty Young is infinitely better.
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little_legs
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That Kylie episode was vomit inducing. She should just shut up and stick to singing spinning around.
I don't know much about Sue Lawley, but my hero Umberto Eco gave her a good lesson when he came on.
Not a big fan of DID in general. I resent the fact that when you take a look at the people they have interviewed over the years, ethnic minorities make maybe 1%. Fuck Radio 4.
I don't know much about Sue Lawley, but my hero Umberto Eco gave her a good lesson when he came on.
Not a big fan of DID in general. I resent the fact that when you take a look at the people they have interviewed over the years, ethnic minorities make maybe 1%. Fuck Radio 4.
jesus.
Reno
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Not true for at least the last decade and how racially diverse can a British programme be over its entire run when it's been going since the early 40s ?
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I suppose you are right, and as for DID, a quick look at Wiki shows they've interviewed 457 people over the last decade, 49 of those are non-white, so that's 12%.
Still, there is something repulsive about DID, for me anyway. It stands for celebrating the old values, boredom, and the establishment. Do you know what else I found extraordinary looking at the list of interviewees from the last decade is how many of them have become lords and baronesses. So, no, I am afraid, fuck Radio 4.
Reno
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It's celebrating "boredom" ? You may find DID boring, otherwise that's a nonsensical thing to say. What entertainment programme sets out to celebrate boredom?. As its a biographical format it obviously doesn't make sense to have young people on. It doesn't celebrate "old values" (more nonsense, what does that even mean with the range of guess they have on ?) it interviews older people because they have actually lived a life they can talk about. It goes without saying that most famous people of a certain age will be part of some sort of establishment, even if they are Jarvis Cocker or Deborah Harry. In which chat show on mainstream media aren't the guests part of some sort of establishment unless they are the latest Big Brother or X-Factor contestants ?
If you hate R4 so much, don't listen to it, problem solved. It mixes entertainment with education in a way I don't know of in terms of radio stations from other countries (and I've lived in a few other countries) and at 52 I still enjoy learning new stuff. I certainly prefer it to the utterly vile British tabloid culture, which has far more influence on the shitty state our politics and society are in than the Urban demonised R4 ever had.
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Yes, I find DID boring, and therefore it promotes boredom. By the old values and the establishment I meant the kind of folk I don't resonate with and have nothing in common with. If that's nonsense to you, that's all right with me.
I don't disagree that if you are a celebrity of some sort, then you are considered part of the establishment, but it doesn't make you worthy of listening to, even if you are Jarvis Cocker or Deborah Harry, who, by the way, I would only listen to if someone paid me good money. This isn't to say that every single person they've had is a twat, I didn't mind Edmund de Waal, Michael Mansfield and Steve McQueen, but the majority of people they've had are twats. The age or the background of the person being interviewed are insignificant if you are able to connect with them. For me it's about being able to relate to what they bring to the table in terms of their work/output, and the less they say the better.
I don't hate R4's content in its entirety, the Film Programme, Natural Histories, some of IoT and the Listening Project are certainly worth listening to and, like you, I enjoy learning/picking up on new stuff. But relatability of the content is an issue, they could definitely work on it. I don't really go for the argument R4 is better than tabloids, because, despite their apparent popularity, tabloids is a British phenomenon that I've put into the box labelled things I am not meant to get.
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now. when i was listening to one the other day, i thought fuck me, they really are scraping the barrel these days. it was Sir Anthony Seldon, who for those who don't know (and believe me i didn't until it was fully explained) used to be the master at wellington college (uber posh boys school), is now the vice chancellor at buckingham university (what? 
) and has edited (yes, edited) a bunch of dull sounding political biogs. yawnarama, right? they tried to make out he was some kind of anti-establishment rebel because he flunked his A-levels first time round. naturally he soon found his mojo and ended up doing PPE at oxford.
anyway, i'd like to say he was interesting, but i'm not sure he was. i listened to the whole thing, because i liked his voice. i couldn't tell you what he said. i enjoyed one of his song choices, which i now can't recall the name of. but that's the thing about desert island discs, maybe it's the format, maybe it's kirsty young, it's kind of soothing, but fleeting. most of them don't stay with you, but that's ok and the ones that do, well it tends to be snippets doesn't it. it's background noise for me, and i never tune in intentionally. perhaps that's why i'm never disappointed...
) and has edited (yes, edited) a bunch of dull sounding political biogs. yawnarama, right? they tried to make out he was some kind of anti-establishment rebel because he flunked his A-levels first time round. naturally he soon found his mojo and ended up doing PPE at oxford.anyway, i'd like to say he was interesting, but i'm not sure he was. i listened to the whole thing, because i liked his voice. i couldn't tell you what he said. i enjoyed one of his song choices, which i now can't recall the name of. but that's the thing about desert island discs, maybe it's the format, maybe it's kirsty young, it's kind of soothing, but fleeting. most of them don't stay with you, but that's ok and the ones that do, well it tends to be snippets doesn't it. it's background noise for me, and i never tune in intentionally. perhaps that's why i'm never disappointed...
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Oh I agree dolly's gal - I listen whoever it is, and it washes over but I always enjoy it. Probably because Kirsty sounds so lovely. That voice 
Spend a portion of it being WHO WHAT OMG WHO CARES but that just adds to it
Spend a portion of it being WHO WHAT OMG WHO CARES but that just adds to it
dolly's gal
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Spend a portion of it being WHO WHAT OMG WHO CARES but that just adds to it
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