Deer and how to deal with them

[SpookyFrank]

Neither Foxes nor Raptors will kill deer or goats more than a week or so after being born.

They are apex predators though. Which was the point I was actually making.

 

[kebabking]

They are apex predators though. Which was the point I was actually making.

Not really, they are predators, but Apex predators - by definition - can predate on everything else around them, and have no natural predator of their own Neither a Fox nor a Sea Eagle can predate on a full grown, or even adolescent, Deer or Goat (which are natural parts of our landscape), so they aren't Apex predators in that sense, and they only (exception of the Sea Eagle..) only don't have predators of their own because we shot them all.

In Poland, where I've been living for the last year, the Apex predators are Wolves, Lynx, Bear - there are few bare hills like we see in the UK through overgrazing - and camping in Carpathian mountains is much more exciting than in the Howgills....

 

[SpookyFrank]

Not really, they are predators, but Apex predators - by definition - can predate on everything else around them

That's not a definition I've seen anywhere else. I mean, everything? Trees, rocks, the A387?

 

[danny la rouge]

Apex fecking pedants around here.

 

[krtek a houby]

Apex fecking pedants around here.

Am still reeling from the fact that raptors are running about

 

[kebabking]

Am still reeling from the fact that raptors are running about

They need a bit of a run up after gobbling down a 200lb Red Deer...

 

[Storm Fox]

Am still reeling from the fact that raptors are running about

Here's one:

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

 

[krtek a houby]

Here's one:

Not quite as dramatic as Jurassic Park, perhaps but the strut is not dissimilar

 

[Storm Fox]

Not quite as dramatic as Jurassic Park, perhaps but the strut is not dissimilar

True, but it's not that one in front of you need to worry about; but from the side from the other two buzzards you didn't even know were there.

Two buzzards attacking someone's face might not kill them, but you're not going to be feeling their best

 

[krtek a houby]

True, but it's not that one in front of you need to worry about; but from the side from the other two buzzards you didn't even know were there.

Two buzzards attacking someone's face might not kill them, but you're not going to be feeling their best

Instead of seagulls trying to nick chips, we have hawks going for other snacks on some beaches here!

 

[chilango]

Wolves will be back sooner or later. The question is whether it's a managed reintroduction or expansion over the channel.

The speed they expanded across France (and then Belgium) outran expectation, but I met people in rural France who had seen wolves establishing themselves in new areas but kept quiet until the new population was established so that the wives were safe.

 

[krtek a houby]

Wolves will be back sooner or later. The question is whether it's a managed reintroduction or expansion over the channel.

The speed they expanded across France (and then Belgium) outran expectation, but I met people in rural France who had seen wolves establishing themselves in new areas but kept quiet until the new population was established so that the wives were safe.

Wives of wolves?

 

[WouldBe]

Wolves will be back sooner or later. The question is whether it's a managed reintroduction or expansion over the channel.

They are going to smuggle themselves in in inflatable dinghies?

 

[chilango]

They are going to smuggle themselves in in inflatable dinghies?

There's heavy enough cross-channel traffic tbh.

Wolves recently returned to the Aland Islands (between Finland and Sweden) so there is precedent.

 

[T & P]

I for one would love to see packs of wolves introduced to Richmond Park to control both the deer and cyclist local populations.

 

[danny la rouge]

I for one would love to see packs of wolves introduced to Richmond Park to control the both the deer and cyclist local populations.

“Wolfie! Wolfie! Oh Jesus Christ, Wolfie!”