xslavearcx
time for a nu-metal revival?
As you can tell, I have razor-sharp observational skills.
hey i dug up the arch culturists CV. i should get a job for mossad
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hey i dug up the arch culturists CV. i should get a job for mossad
Nope, but keep looking, its great that I'm wasting your time.
What term would you prefer? Hmm?
The real irony here J-Ed, is that you have the EDL at the throat of Islam, and they have a self confessed 'Jewish Division' in their ranks, not to mention the fact that the EDL is loosely based on the Jewish Defence League which was a terrorist group.
On the other hand, you have the UAF who at least apparently appears to support militant Islam in some respects but still uses the term 'Nazi' when directing themselves at the EDL, despite the fact that the EDL is based on an anti-Islam stance originating from links with far-right Judaism.
Situations a bit complex, I know, and what I've said is a bit over-simplified, but ponder on it for a moment. Who stands to gain from watching the left and the right beat the living shit out of each other?
And no, I don't support the EDL, they probably do deserve going to an Ostrog.
xslavearcx
time for a nu-metal revival?
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Rhetorical question numb-nuts.
xslavearcx
time for a nu-metal revival?
You believe in the existence of ZOG then? In a literal sense, of Jews running the world ala the Protocols, or in a cowardly vague sense of the "Zionist lobby" like Jazzz is into?
Speculate? But you sounded so sure!
Anyway if the EDL is Zog-funded then all I can say is this Zog lot must be pretty ineffective and skint, because the EDL is a joke. I expected better, a bit more professionalism.
I reckon it's him, his reaction to me was the giveaway coz I've done a bit of piss-taking of him on twitter in the past.
classicdish
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1) Where are your sources for these quotes?
2) How do you know that most English MPs agree with these alleged statements?
The Prescott thing is toally correct anyway, there is no such thing as an English state. Hasn't been for centuries. We live in a British state. Sure there might be people who think of their nationality as English, but nationality is a pyscho-geographical abstract construct, the ideological dressing of the state, I could consider my nationality to be Deiran for all it matters it doesn't mean there's any such nation-state as Deira. Nation-states come and go, they're a relatively new European phenomenon really (and it's debatable whether and they're going to last much longer, but that's a massive digression) and by their nature they're incredibly transient - interestingly one of the conceits of nationalism is that nations are Eternal, blood and soil etc but even with A Literal Child's knowledge of history is easy to debunk this rubbish. Look at the list of former nations that used to exist in the last few hundred years where are they now? There's no such nationality as Savoyard either. Or Prussian. Or Cornish. Or the million and one other flags and anthems that basically constitute nationalist symbolism that've come and gone in European history. Sure there might be people who identify as Cornish rather than English, but so what? There's a guy on tumblr who identifies as a piece of toast. Is there such a thing as a Cornish nation-state? No.
Culture for these morons exists on crude ethno-nationalist lines. The stupidity of this is that culture is subjective and varied from person to person, there might be more cultural variation within one small town than between supposedly distinct nations with distinct cultures. I'm from generaly working-class/lower middle background, from the north, state educated etc. I'm interested culturally in a million and one things as a result of my upbringing, environment and other personal idiosyncrasies. I have a very different culture to say someone else English, like ooh Prince Charles, or son of a merchant banker, ex commodities trader and Man of the People Nigel Farage. II probably have more in common in many ways with your average working class German or French person than I do with the upper classes in my own culture, or with degenerates like Farage. The sheer variation that exists within the catch-all "English culture" makes stupid political pronouncements by nationalist pseuds like Buckby (who let's be honest is a fucking joke I'm giving him far too much credit by describing him as Mark Collett mk2) an exercise in egotism and pomposity.
Culture for these morons exists on crude ethno-nationalist lines. The stupidity of this is that culture is subjective and varied from person to person, there might be more cultural variation within one small town than between supposedly distinct nations with distinct cultures. I'm from generaly working-class/lower middle background, from the north, state educated etc. I'm interested culturally in a million and one things as a result of my upbringing, environment and other personal idiosyncrasies. I have a very different culture to say someone else English, like ooh Prince Charles, or son of a merchant banker, ex commodities trader and Man of the People Nigel Farage. II probably have more in common in many ways with your average working class German or French person than I do with the upper classes in my own culture, or with degenerates like Farage. The sheer variation that exists within the catch-all "English culture" makes stupid political pronouncements by nationalist pseuds like Buckby (who let's be honest is a fucking joke I'm giving him far too much credit by describing him as Mark Collett mk2) an exercise in egotism and pomposity.
rekil
to menny cranks
Laurie is a bigot. She hates working class people but there's a consistent stream of this shit as well.
sim667
All aboard the 303 bus.
Well I think you'll find it's not during colonialism we have up our right to identity, but it was due to colonialism and developed trade links that made the country into the supposed superpower it was, I feel we have up our right to a 'British' identity with the influx of Afro Caribbean, Indian etc immigrants, and right that is too.
This right wing attack on creed and colour is nothing but a knee jerk reaction to austerity, "Ermagherd, we're a bit poorer than we have been in the past, blame everyone that's immigrated on the last century" kind of thing. It's ducking pathetic.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i don't know what you mean here
TruXta
tired
Arguably the caste system underpins and orders many of those doctrinal/regional/linguistic differences. Both Buddhism and Sikhism are arguably offshoots of various Hindu practices and philosophies, as is Jainism. Is there an Indian mono-culture? Of course not. Are there Indian cultures? Of course there is.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
DISAMBIGUATION NOTICE:
You're saying things people don't like but are not fitting neatly into any any of our 'instant dismissal' boxes - it would assist us greatly if you would self-identify as one or more of the following categories:
Nazi
Racist
EDL member
Conspiraloon - anti-semite variant
Conspiraloon - alien abductee variant
Paedophile apologist
MRA
Gun nut
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Please bear in mind that refusal to identify in good time may result in your arbitrary assignment to a random category.
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
up yours Binxie
http://welshnotbritish.blogspot.co.uk/
http://welshnotbritish.blogspot.co.uk/
sim667
All aboard the 303 bus.
I was responding to where I was last quoted.
The premise of what my view is (im sure not everyone will agree), is that the trade links from a colonialist era opened up options for immigration from various areas throughout the mid-late 1900's. In that respect because of the colonalisation I don't feel that English can hold up on key Identity and say "this is english and this is who should live here", like giving up a right to holding a steadfast Identity due to past political decisions. Maybe its a naive view, but not as naive as saying "Ermagherd, they took our jerbs!"
It seems that a small minority of society now want the right to live in england to be determind by your family history, i.e. true english, but where do you draw the line? Is a second generation Indian immigrant, (i.e. someone who is born in england, but to immigrant parents) english enough to live in england according to EDL/UKIP etc? I know indians who were born in Bangladesh and moved here at a young age, and actually they show more quintessential "english" traits than I do?
And from my point of view, welsh grandparents one side, english grandparents the other side, having traced my family history back to the french invasion of 1066, which side of the "english" line do I fall on.
My point is that the history of trade, invasions, political choices of this little isle reallistically renders the notion of "englishness" void imho.
And Binxie was just being a moron.
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wobbly
A lot of that is determined on how you choose to define national identity. most people with half a brain don't use genetic or racial determining factors. Anderson's 'imagined community' seems to be the accepted definition in the literature on this that i read. and that definition would accept immigrants as belonging, if that is their choice.
sim667
All aboard the 303 bus.
So the UKIP and EDL would accept a policy where an "immigrant" who feels they "belong" in england would be allowed to stay? I doubt that someho
el-ahrairah
forward communism, forward gerbils!
just out of interest i googled this phrase trying to find when and why he said it and all i can find is a load of white nationalists claiming he said it and where there are citations they all cite each other. there's no hansard or newspaper quote. unless someone says otherwise i'm going to call this one of those lies people believe and pass on because they want it to be true.
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wobbly
So the UKIP and EDL would accept a policy where an "immigrant" who feels they "belong" in england would be allowed to stay? I doubt that someho
that's cause the UKIP/EDl types have about half a working brain between them.
FWIW, i know a representative ample of cornish nationalists and they are less welcoming to EDL/UKIP types as most of urban.
No, not in a literal sense, but at least in a sense whereby there is a continued support for Israel and a hostility towards Muslim nations on one hand and a desire to keep the Right from becoming to big on the other in case it effects their plans for globalisation.
Think what you want, if it makes you feel better.
1. Sources? Do a google search, it'll come up. Jack Straw said the English weren't worth saving during a meeting to do with the Falkland Islands, and well, the John Prescott thing is common knowledge.
2. Not sure if most of the Conservatives agree, but I'm pretty sure if you look at the Fabian Society, your realise that these comments are in-line with their philosophy. Lets not forget about the UN and the EU directives on this kind of thing too, when the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples (#169) came about, our politicians refused to sign quoting 'no such thing'. So surely if you agree with this sentiment, you also do not agree that Amazonian tribes should be free to live in their land without neo-colonial abuse from oil companies and the like.
Well if you're pro multiculturalism, I don't see how you can't integrate those immigrants and make them an overall part of the identity.
At the moment, there are an increasing number of people, migrants too, who realise that this country regardless of what colour or creed they are, is unable to take any more people. There are finite resources within the education, health system and more importantly how much space there is. I was talking to someone not long ago who said they supported the idea of building on Green Belt, so apparently wildlife and air quality should be undermined for a few more hundred thousand people.
Unfortunately the cities in this country are getting so crammed that it is creating racist issues in all communities, and its a problem that is likely to get worse.
I understand English isn't your first language, so I'll forgive you for not having the ability to articulate yourself properly.
I think if you read back you'd realise that I'm pro national independence and anti- the British Government, but as I say, you'd have to be able to read for that.
sim667
All aboard the 303 bus.
I think a large part of that problem is that "english" people rarely move abroad for work, its something thats a lot more common in europe, and thats because of poor language education (and education generally)......
We've become part of the european union with the idea of taking from it, but not wanting to be actively involved in it, as demonstrated by reluctance to use the euro etc. Its a shame, as I think the benefits of being in the european union far outweigh the negatives, and personally I'd rather Identify as european then english.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
What does this confused mess mean Earendel? You don't believes that jews literally secretly run the world but you do believe that some jews support Israel? Ok, stunning observation - what's it got to do with running the world (or nor) though? Then you continue on to say that jews have a desire to stop the right as the right will effect the jewish plans for globalisation. Which is rather close to saying that jews do have a secret plan for running the world isn't it? What are these jewish plans for globalisation? Where did you hear about them and from who? Of what does their jewish nature consist?
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
ah the thick people in the provinces argument! fuck off
don't be appropriating the Welsh for your bullshit 'arguments' thanks
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Starry Wisdom
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