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Crown and Anchor pub, Brixton Road, Brixton goes card-only

slowjoe said:
In the context of fully marketised housing provision - something we're still far from, but moving towards - the distinction between things that regenerate an area and those that gentrify it is virtually meaningless. In this context, having an open Post Office rather than a closed-down one, or having less street crime are gentrification, because anything that makes an area more attractive to live in will increase the amount that can be charged for housing and so determine who can live there.
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I think this is true. The other thing is that, for the same reasons, it's not really caused by people acting badly. Ultimately anyone who can afford to pay more than someone else for housing is pushing prices up to some degree, and you don't need to be a hipster, a Claphamite or even a particularly rich person, for that to be the case.
 
slowjoe said:
In the context of fully marketised housing provision - something we're still far from, but moving towards - the distinction between things that regenerate an area and those that gentrify it is virtually meaningless. In this context, having an open Post Office rather than a closed-down one, or having less street crime are gentrification, because anything that makes an area more attractive to live in will increase the amount that can be charged for housing and so determine who can live there.
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This is somehow totally besides the point, because an open post office will not make an area more attractive to live in, gentrification relates to middle-class people moving into central, cheap, residential neighbourhoods due to the low prices and creating a completely different dempgraphic (smaller households and higher disposable incomes) which is followed by businesses catering for those salaries. Th old residents on low income will find it hard to afford the prices and can can be effectively evicted and moved to cheaper , outskirts areas , bringing in a HB cap will deal with the most undesirable tenants. recent rioting for economic gain is hardly surprising, and an outcome of not teaching politics at school.
Personally, I don't think it is a surprise the Black Archives building company has collapsed, and the project is delayed, but that's another thread
 
Good news. Apparently they've slashed the price of Sierra Nevada from £8 to £5.60 :) (which is still obscene but i guess it's better than nothing)
 
gabi said:
Good news. Apparently they've slashed the price of Sierra Nevada from £8 to £5.60 :) (which is still obscene but i guess it's better than nothing)
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No. Nothing is a better price than £5.60.
How much Sierra Nevada do you get for that anyway? Is it on draught?
 
kalibuzz said:
This is somehow totally besides the point, because an open post office will not make an area more attractive to live in, gentrification relates to middle-class people moving into central, cheap, residential neighbourhoods due to the low prices and creating a completely different dempgraphic (smaller households and higher disposable incomes) which is followed by businesses catering for those salaries. Th old residents on low income will find it hard to afford the prices and can can be effectively evicted and moved to cheaper , outskirts areas , bringing in a HB cap will deal with the most undesirable tenants. recent rioting for economic gain is hardly surprising, and an outcome of not teaching politics at school.
Personally, I don't think it is a surprise the Black Archives building company has collapsed, and the project is delayed, but that's another thread
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Fwiw I wouldn't argue that a pub like this isn't to some degree an 'active' gentrifying influence - I know other places that focus on good-quality/unusual beer that still put on a token fosters/kronenberg, seeing as that's what lots of people still like to drink. But the point is that even if it was exactly the same as before but just in a clean and newly decorated form, it would still have a gentrifying effect, as any improvement currently will (and yes, of course having amenities like an open post office increase the amount people will spend to live in an area).

But the point isn't to say that these processes are inevitable and we should just accept that poor people will have to shuffle from one shitty area to another whenever some somewhat less poor people follow them to where the rent is cheap. The point is that there needs to be a system to allow areas to become nicer without that meaning that existing residents can no longe afford to live there.
 
Pub reviewed in Time Out this week <cue further gentrification outrage>.
 
Sitting in the Crown and Anchor having a beer at this very moment.

The bar staff are refreshingly untrendy.

Now I just need to get drunk enough to consider paying £4 for half a lager....

Edited to add some more considered feedback.

Really nice beers on tap, although one of the women serving them wasn't exactly friendly.

A large number of people on plaid shirts, but nobody was sporting trousers turned up to reveal some ankle.

There were chefs in, but they weren't actually doing food.

All in all I liked it and will be returning, having said that, its a lot further to go than the Elm Park Tavern.

Oh and I didn't try a £4 half. :cool:
 
Went in last night and was a most enjoyable couple of pints. Service was good, cider (£4 a pint) was excellent and the food looked good. Really nice place :cool:
 
I was taken there last Thursday by a friend whose benefit has not yet been cut off by the government (unlike myself). I thought it was really chic, but we went when the Beehive got nasty after the Academy turned out, and it was relatively quiet. We (in our 50s) were at least 20 years older than anyone else in the place, but the beer was excellent albeit £1 more than the BH minimum.
 
I have been reliably informed that full food service will be starting this evening - the food is pretty good - I had a meal at the sister pub in Stoke Newington on Friday - very nice - main meals about a tenner or so I think
 
They've now started food which will be available from these times:

Mon-Fri 5pm-10pm
Sat noon-10pm
Sun noon-8pm
 
Ol Nick said:
They are supposed to be running a pub. They've no business doing food.
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It has to be said that their enthusiasm for food seemed a lot less than it was for ale, but I guess pubs have got to do food to get enough custom in the daytimes.
 
I do like a really good pint with some half-decent food. I'm glad food has got better in pubs. I've never really liked pickled eggs and pickled onions much and that's all there used to be in most pubs (crisps aren't food).
 
I met one of the chef's there and had a drink (£3.60 for an excellent ale may I add) with him. He was really passionate about things and making all their own sauces, chutneys and stuff. The menu is premium price (£9. 50 for the 'Brixton' burger) but appears of a decent quality.

The chef did say that the food is more of an accompaniment to the ales/ciders so they are not doing a big menu, more specials with a few staples.

Overall I think the staff there are great. Old chap came up to the bar and was a bit lost with the range of options. The young lass behind the bar asked what he liked, made a recommendation, gave a taster, told him about the brewery it came from and he was most pleased with his lot.
 
Badgers said:
Overall I think the staff there are great. Old chap came up to the bar and was a bit lost with the range of options. The young lass behind the bar asked what he liked, made a recommendation, gave a taster, told him about the brewery it came from and he was most pleased with his lot.
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I was briefly there when they were training the staff, and they certainly know their stuff when it comes to ales. Which is how it should be.
 
Thanks all may give it a try but a mate said they only give you about 7 chips for £4 and they can't tell you where the meat is from?

Worried about carcasses, Brixton style, (i.e shopping cart and flies) for apparently a tenner burger & £14.50 steak.

Seems Jolly Butchers, sister pub, has a known supplier of quality meat....but no providence for us?
 
cybilbrix said:
Thanks all may give it a try but a mate said they only give you about 7 chips for £4 and they can't tell you where the meat is from?

Worried about carcasses, Brixton style, (i.e shopping cart and flies) for apparently a tenner burger & £14.50 steak.

Seems Jolly Butchers, sister pub, has a known supplier of quality meat....but no providence for us?
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Provenance, unless you want to find God in a burger.
 
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