Crossrail 2- consultation begins

[Teaboy]

or Bangkok.

Yeah, that system in Bangkok makes Edinburgh's tram's look on-time and in-budget by comparison.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Crossrail 2 is shite, they should bin the idea and go with my planned Crossrail 3, my front door to my work - no stops.

 

[Dogsauce]

Given I'm about 2.5 miles from the city centre and about 70 m higher up I'm hoping a long-distance water slide becomes a viable commuting option at some point, that or some kind of rubber dinghy rapids. Fuck trains.

 

[hipipol]

I await the development of the HoverBed myself
The train lark, however clever the route, is all too tiresome I find

 

[Maurice Picarda]

Given I'm about 2.5 miles from the city centre and about 70 m higher up I'm hoping a long-distance water slide becomes a viable commuting option at some point, that or some kind of rubber dinghy rapids. Fuck trains.

Wouldn't you have to queue for ages behind coach parties of badly behaved schoolchildren to get back home in the evenings?

 

[equationgirl]

Such services used to exist, using the overground route via Kensignton Olympia. You used to be able to take a train from Brighton to Glasgow. No Crosscountry on that route since 2008 http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/3749781.Train_services_from_Brighton_withdrawn/-title=Train/

Also you used to get an East Coast service through from Glasgow to London KC - haven't been able to do that for a couple of years a least. I used to get the train from Brighton to Birmingham as part of the west coast rout to go and see my parents when I lived briefly in Brighton.

 

[Bungle73]

Also you used to get an East Coast service through from Glasgow to London KC - haven't been able to do that for a couple of years a least. I used to get the train from Brighton to Birmingham as part of the west coast rout to go and see my parents when I lived briefly in Brighton.

Easy Coast still run to Glasgow, just not very often.

 

[equationgirl]

So London's to get another obscene amount of money spent on yet more tube lines, while in Leeds we're basically laughed at when anyone suggests that what we actually need in this hugely congested city is an upgrade local rail / underground system as that'd be far too expensive.

nope, we get fobbed off with some shite trolleybus scheme that's apparently all London can spare to spend on us, which will probably just make the situation worse as there's no room for it to fit on the road anyway.

At least you got that. The Glasgow Airport link got cancelled because the money was 'needed' on the East Coast.

Glasgow could do with opening up some more of the disused stations and improving the transport links between north and south of the river, not to mention the outlying towns like Renfrew and Johnston.

 

[equationgirl]

Easy Coast still run to Glasgow, just not very often.

The last time I looked at the timetable it was only crappy virgin trains. No east coast at all down from 3 services min a day.

 

[Bungle73]

The last time I looked at the timetable it was only crappy virgin trains. No east coast at all down from 3 services min a day.

15:30 out of KGX runs to Glasgow central weekdays, and the 06:50 back.

 

[equationgirl]

15:30 out of KGX runs to Glasgow central weekdays, and the 06:50 back.

Which is a pathetic remnant of a service.

 

[Bungle73]

Which is a pathetic remnant of a service.

Why would anyone want to travel to Glasgow from KGX when there are plenty of trains from Euston, which are also faster too? That is probably why the service was withdrawn.

 

[Bungle73]

And I'm correct. The service was withdrawn under GNER. From Wikipedia:

London-Glasgow
GNER operated ten trains per day between King's Cross and Glasgow. With the upgrade of the West Coast Main Line (WCML) between London Euston and Glasgow to 125 mph completed, GNER could no longer compete with Virgin Trains on this route in terms of journey times (5hrs 30mins compared to the new 4hrs 25min time on the WCML), but they did provide a link from Glasgow to Newcastle and York and a secondary route for use when the WCML was closed for engineering work.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNER#London-Glasgow

 

[free spirit]

At least you got that. The Glasgow Airport link got cancelled because the money was 'needed' on the East Coast.

Glasgow could do with opening up some more of the disused stations and improving the transport links between north and south of the river, not to mention the outlying towns like Renfrew and Johnston.

yeah, but we don't actually want the trolley bus, it's a shit scheme that will cause havok during construction, and likely make congestion worse when it's running (even going from their figures they show it getting marginally worse).

They've had to play fast and loose with the figures to even get the scheme looking vaguely not so bad, but basically their traffic analysis is completely wrong, and they've cooked the figures by somehow adding an extra 500 cars down the section of road nearest to me that is already fully congested by 7.30am most mornings.

Plus destroying hundreds of mature trees, and basically the entire character of the route into town (tree lined roads will no longer be tree lined), and halving the bus service that extends well beyond the trolley bus route.

Complete white elephant basically, meantime they've not done basic junction improvements on the route for the last 30 years that would have made a huge difference because they've been trying to get one version or other of their white elephant scheme through.

 

[equationgirl]

yeah, but we don't actually want the trolley bus, it's a shit scheme that will cause havok during construction, and likely make congestion worse when it's running (even going from their figures they show it getting marginally worse).

They've had to play fast and loose with the figures to even get the scheme looking vaguely not so bad, but basically their traffic analysis is completely wrong, and they've cooked the figures by somehow adding an extra 500 cars down the section of road nearest to me that is already fully congested by 7.30am most mornings.

Plus destroying hundreds of mature trees, and basically the entire character of the route into town (tree lined roads will no longer be tree lined), and halving the bus service that extends well beyond the trolley bus route.

Complete white elephant basically, meantime they've not done basic junction improvements on the route for the last 30 years that would have made a huge difference because they've been trying to get one version or other of their white elephant scheme through.

It sounds like a much worse version of the Edinburgh tram situation