She was certainly not "clinging on like a monkey" (where the fuck are you getting this weird shit from?)
I have an intuition that XR 75 is quite scared right now... wonder what they were doing on 1 & 2 April?
She was certainly not "clinging on like a monkey" (where the fuck are you getting this weird shit from?)
Moi?
No, you know, I post a response and half a dozen buggers post things in between the one I was replying to and mine. And then it takes ages for me to realise that my own response is entirely misplaced now. Bah. I should just quote more.
XR75 isn't a copper, I have met him.
Bet he doesn't remember it though.
If he isn't a copper, i bet he likes dressing up as one - esp. the monkey swatting gauntlets.
Hmmm... Herbert, I wouldn't have you down as an attender at Copperware parties
Dealing with irate people is what the police are trained - and paid - for.
She was presenting no physical threat. She had not touched the officer. She was certainly not "clinging on like a monkey" (where the fuck are you getting this weird shit from?).
XR75 isn't a copper, I have met him.
Bet he doesn't remember it though.
For example instead of getting close and pokey she decides to cling to his leg, what happens if other people do the same thing when he tries to arrest her amusing as that would be.
I was making an example not saying that's what they were doing.
For example instead of getting close and pokey she decides to cling to his leg, what happens if other people do the same thing when he tries to arrest her amusing as that would be.
Then he'll shuffle off into some other industry that requires you to be a wanker like door security or wheel clamping.
Yeah why not but only on the condition I get to intruduce you to a proper backhand slap with the same armour.
BBC Breakfast running with this, just had Shami on, lib Dems say shows
'systematic' problems, calling for full scale inquiry, human rights lawyer on next.
still not maaking it clear that this was on Sunday, at a vigil, not sat at the main event
When should forced be used to deal with irate people like her,or should they be allowed to cling onto the police like monkeys without being swatted off?
Yeah why not but only on the condition I get to intruduce you to a proper backhand slap with the same armour.
I hope he is already alone and bitter. Imagine being married to that! Or being one of his children.
I can picture him giving his wife or child a back-hander for contradicting him at the dinner table.
I was making an example not saying that's what they were doing.
For example instead of getting close and pokey she decides to cling to his leg, what happens if other people do the same thing when he tries to arrest her amusing as that would be.
So in other words, you were talking bollocks. It's plain to see on the video, no physical contact on her part whatsoever, she challenges his authority by arguing with him, he responds with violence.I was making an example not saying that's what they were doing.
For example instead of getting close and pokey she decides to cling to his leg, what happens if other people do the same thing when he tries to arrest her amusing as that would be.
Are they, though? The accepted story seems to be blame one or two "out of control" foot soldiers who reacted badly "under pressure". The problem is from the top, and it's policing strategy, not individual "bad apples".Tis all good that the press are finally waking up to what the police are really like.
I notice that he disappeared pretty fast after knocking her to the ground, not just a thug, but a coward.
it looks to me like she's floored. But I just get that from her immediate reaction, the rest of her is off camera. But a blow to the knee joint, is designed to knock you down. And you can see that's where he's aiming for.
It looked to me like she fell after he smacked her in the legs with a big bloody stick, sorry, exercised reasonable force using a less lethal weapon. I might be mistaken though.sorry to correct you inbloom, tho i dont think she was knocked to the ground? Did the she not stay on her feet holding the orange juice and camera in her hands.
That's the line the right-wing media are taking because they can't really ignore or justify what's happened. There is plenty of discussion of the systemic issues, and not just in the media.Are they, though? The accepted story seems to be blame one or two "out of control" foot soldiers who reacted badly "under pressure". The problem is from the top, and it's policing strategy, not individual "bad apples".
The Times has learnt that senior Scotland Yard officers who led Operation Glencoe, the plan to protect the summit and prevent disorder, have been summoned to explain their tactics to members of the force’s watchdog body.
Commander Bob Broadhurst and his team will also be questioned at a closed meeting of the Metropolitan Police Authority (MPA) about the death of Ian Tomlinson, who was hit by a riot police officer minutes before he died from a heart attack. Mr Broadhurst, who gave stark warnings of violence before the protests, will also face questions about whether the language he and fellow commanders used served to stoke up confrontation.
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Kit Malthouse, deputy chairman of the police authority, said: “We have asked the Met for a thorough briefing session. We want to review and understand why they employed those tactics.” Mr Malthouse, who is also Deputy Mayor with responsibility for policing, said that members would require a full explanation of the intelligence material that convinced the police that anarchist groups were planning violence in the City. “We need to understand the intelligence picture and decide whether the police response on the day was proportionate,” he said.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article6073436.ece
The meeting will take place on April 23 amid mounting public concern and complaints about an aggressive police approach to the demonstrations.
The officers will also have to appear at a public session of the authority the following week.