ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
There's certainly been an increase in inter-service security exercises and training post-"9/11", and we know, for example, that army recon and surveillance elements were involved in the de Menezes fiasco. I suspect that the aggressive "public order" policing is all their own work though, an attempt to look 'ard to their international colleagues.Are they getting training from the military maybe? They're certainly acting as though they'd taken lessons in public order policing from the Para. I guess we should be glad that they aren't issued with bayonets eh?
Interestingly enough, there was a CRS dude on the R4 news earlier, saying as how, from the footage of the protest on 1/4 and the vigil for Mr. Tomlinson, our "riot police" were extremely ill-disciplined.
Of course, many of the police may not have had either the "baptism of fire" or the training that soldiers might, so fuck-ups would appear to be more likely. You join the army knowing that at the last your job boils down to "kill and/or be killed". I don't believe that most policemen have that in mind at all when they join a police service.The way the cops who repeatedly shot the unfortunate Mr Menezes in the face had evidently adopted the SAS/IDF approach displayed at Gibraltar but added a bunch of typical rozzer incompetence (at least on that occasion the SAS had the sense to execute people who were actually in the IRA, even if they weren't armed or dangerous at the time of their death, rather than some random bystander)
Thatcher and before. Kitson and his contemporaries were widely read in the 60s and 70s by people with an interest in provocation and control.I'd be willing to bet that during the Thatcher era a whole bunch of military riot instigation/control and coercion techniques were passed on to the cops that have continued to affect their training and doctrine to this day.