organicpanda
cat herder extraodinaire
thanks for the info (it is part of a bigger dispute) will take pleasure in informing him
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han
love is the answer
Thanks. Anyone know what the refurb entails? Is it staying as a gig pub or will it turn into something else?
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han
love is the answer
Ah, that sounds OK. Shame about the stage and the tree, though.It's going to be much the same as before. Sadly, the stage has gonebut there will still be weekly DJ nights.
Given that it's the crowd rather than the decor that makes the Albert, I'm hopeful that it will remain pretty much the same as ever. Real shame about the tree though.
isvicthere?
a.k.a. floppybollocks
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I'm so old I still miss the elevated flower box made of bricks, which included a sign not to empty the dottle from your clay pipe in it.
Fixed that for you, Vic.
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hiraethified
I wasn't sure about this at first, but I think they've done a good job.
Brixton’s Barrier Block gets a green makeover by the Edible Bus Stop crew
Brixton’s Barrier Block gets a green makeover by the Edible Bus Stop crew
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A Mr Roy Lau of 47 Geary Road London NW1 wants to turn the old bookies opposite the Barrier Block into a fast food store. The inclusion of a bike rack has set off an early hipster alert.
16/05251/FUL | Change of permitted use from betting shop (Sui Generis) to A3 (restaurant) and A5 (Hot food Takeaway) including installation of roller shutters, a bin store and a ventilation flue to the rear elevation. | 326 Coldharbour Lane London SW9 8QH
16/05251/FUL | Change of permitted use from betting shop (Sui Generis) to A3 (restaurant) and A5 (Hot food Takeaway) including installation of roller shutters, a bin store and a ventilation flue to the rear elevation. | 326 Coldharbour Lane London SW9 8QH
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
What do people think of this? I would say that if you count Jimmys Morleys Jerk + Imperial Mama Dough there are probably enough such places to generate an objection to this.
On the other hand I would be well pissed off if I objected and we ended up with another betting shop!
Lucy Fur
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The bike racks are internal, for staff and are part of new guidelines, basically a planning application sweetener. They will probably never exist.
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
I should think the owner/devloper is another one like 400 Coldharbour Lane where s/he couldn't care less what the business is - so long as it pays the maximum possible rent.
That design statement is all about keeping options open as I read it.
I feel a shop of some kind would be better - but clearly there is no need for another canned beer shop next to an existing!
CH1
"Red Guard"(NLYL)
Just noticed that the previous application to turn the betting shop into A1,3,5 - only last April was REFUSED - one of the three reasons given by the council was lack of provision for cyclists:
2. No cycle parking is proposed, no details of deliveries and servicing have been provided and in the
absence of a S106 agreement to secure permit-free designation the proposed development would fail to encourage sustainable modes of transport and is likely to harm highway and transport conditions, contrary to Policies T3, T6, T7 and T8 of the Lambeth Local Plan 2015.
Obviously the applicant is simply trying to neutralise that objection on behalf of Lambeth Council, rather than currying favour with hipsters (at least that's what my cynical old brain tells me).
ChrisSouth
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Because no working class person has ever ridden a bike. Ever.
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hiraethified
I could be wrong but regular cafes rarely come with wall mounted interior back racks. Couple that with the rapid gentrification of that strip of shops (recent additions: cocktail bar, trendy coffee bar, upmarket Shoreditch hair salon) and you know what? I might just be on to something here.
ChrisSouth
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But that's not what you said. You focused solely on bike racks which to my mind solely don't signify anything other than somewhere to hang a bike. Perhaps you should cycle more.
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hiraethified
Perhaps you should have read the specific planning application we were discussing before charging in with the pointless sarcastic remark?
There is obviously nothing wrong with bike racks: but add the context of this particular planning application and its gentrifying location and there's a different point to be made.
snowy_again
Slush
But you liked CH1's post where he mentioned that previous planning had been rejected on environmental grounds (lack of provision for cyclists) and his comment that they are probably there (2 for punters, 2 for staff) to address that planning condition.
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hiraethified
Yes. I did. Quite correct. He added something I didn't know about, but that doesn't allay my concerns that there'll be some ghastly unaffordable business setting up shop there.
ChrisSouth
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Is it ok if it's ghastly but affordable?
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hiraethified
I didn't realise today was ChrisSouth's 'Let's be A Persnickety Pain In The Arse Day'. Fabulous stuff.
It may all be a big joke to you, but I'm not laughing. This whole community if getting priced out and pushed out by developers and greedy fuckers.
SpamMisery
Pretty comfortable here right under your skin
Lets have less of the personal attacks. It distracts from the discussion of the bike racks.
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My regular forays along the street suggests that Dirty Burger must be losing a bomb: it's almost always completely empty whenever I pass. It's a different story for the twin security guard-protected Rum Kitchen which seems packed with free-spending types almost all of the time.
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The new Caya cafe opposite the Barrier Block is very much plugged into the ambitious entrepreneurial nu-Brixton vision, already declaring it to be just their "first shop" with plans to expand "across the UK and Europe over the next five years" with a strapline of, "Look out London. CAYA is coming to a street near you."
Shame the place has such inflexible opening hours (Mon-Fri 7:30-16:00, Sat 9:00-16:00, Sun CLOSED) because it might have come in handy for me.
I wish them every success but I do wonder if they have enough to differentiate themselves in a very, very crowded coffee/cafe market and I worry that their business model of offering paid workspaces is going to rely on them finding venues with a lot of free space: and that's a real rare commodity these days.
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Shame the place has such inflexible opening hours (Mon-Fri 7:30-16:00, Sat 9:00-16:00, Sun CLOSED) because it might have come in handy for me.
I wish them every success but I do wonder if they have enough to differentiate themselves in a very, very crowded coffee/cafe market and I worry that their business model of offering paid workspaces is going to rely on them finding venues with a lot of free space: and that's a real rare commodity these days.
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organicpanda
cat herder extraodinaire
had a coffee in there yesterday, nice staff, nice coffee, seems to be positioning itself as a sandwich shop/workspace with a lot of space for meetings etc. at £4 an hour, tables at the front large enough for 1 person and their computer and coffee. during the hour I spent in there there were two meetings, about 5 people sipping coffee, 2 eating and 2 takeaways not bad for a Monday I would have thought.
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hiraethified
I'll check it out at some point soon, but those early closing times are a real pain for me. What was the prices like?
organicpanda
cat herder extraodinaire
£2.50 for coffee, cakes around the same price didn't take any notice of anything else
ChrisSouth
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I agree with you about the opening times. I'd have through a 4.30pm finish was a bit too early
