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Chile v Spain/ Honduras v Switzerland

I really want Spain to win, then all four countries I've lived in will be in the last 16. Slovakia and Germany are already through.
 
even so, he didnt deliberately trip Torres - though wasnt it him who lunged at Iniesta a while back?

looking at the replays i would say non-deliberate but he has been playing 'full on', as you mention, so the ref is giving no benefit of doubt i think...
 
This half does make you wonder whether del Bosque has deliberately planned this against Chile - switching from their normal possession football to the counter-attacking play we have seen so far tonight.

With Villa, Torres, Xavi and Iniesta it certainly works as a Plan B, they have been outstanding.
 
Bugger. Chile and that Mexican ref were never going to be a good mix. I hate it when men are sent off first half. Ruins the game. :(
 
Well that's buggered that up.

Until Villa got that lucky yet well taken goal, Chile were tearing strips of Spain.

I really hope the Chilean style is the future.

There's a lot going for it in terms of pace and dynamism and in a way it's only going to become more likely as players get even fitter and faster but I somehow doubt it.

You'd never get English players to play in that manner anyway.
 
Bugger. Chile and that Mexican ref were never going to be a good mix. I hate it when men are sent off first half. Ruins the game. :(

Trouble is that a lot of people have a script in their head before the game starts, and they interpret everything they see in terms of it rather than for what it is. Which doesn't matter when it's the fans, not so much when it's commentators and pundits, but really fucks it up when it's the ref. That wasn't even a foul by Estrada, just Torres running across the front of him, and I know for certain that if it had been Pujol on Alexis Sanchez it wouldn't have been given as a free kick.
 
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