Chilcot Iraq Enquiry.

[agricola]

"The nightmare of Syria would be happening now in Iraq, except with the Sunni / Shia inverted"

 

[DotCommunist]

history lessons now?

 

[DotCommunist]

let me just what if my way out of complicity in the war

 

[DotCommunist]

AQ became ISIS. cheers tone. liar

 

[Lurdan]

A few extracts from a truly revolting apologetic by Alaister Campbell

Many mistakes yes, but no lies, no deceit, no secret deals, no ‘sexing up’. And ultimately a matter of leadership and judgement

The truth was – and remains, confirmed today – that the so called sexing up of intelligence never happened. The Today programme report that said it had should never have been broadcast, and the BBC should have properly investigated our complaint rather than dismissed it out of hand because it came from Downing Street. Had they done so, David Kelly would almost certainly be alive today...

(...)

So when the latest murderous ISIS attack in Baghdad happens, a few days ago, with Chilcot looming, the BBC’s Middle East correspondent, Jeremy Bowen, cannot resist adding two and two together and making whatever the number of deaths happens to be. ‘Sectarian war started in the chaos and violence that was unleashed by the American and British invasion of Iraq in 2003,’ he said. ‘Plenty of Iraqis have already made up their minds: that the invasion and occupation pushed them into an agony without an end.’ Plenty of Iraqis, and not merely Kurds and Shias, also remain glad that Saddam Hussein is no more. We just don’t see or hear them too often on British TV stations.

(...)

I was one of the few people who saw the process of his making the decision close up, virtually round the clock, around the world. Far from seeing someone hellbent on war, I saw someone doing all he could to avoid it. Far from seeing someone undermine the UN, I saw him trying his hardest to make it work. Far from seeing someone cavalier about the consequences of war, I saw someone who agonised about them, and I know he still does, as do all who were there, part of his team.

(...)

The Chilcot Inquiry panel knows a lot about foreign policy, and about government process. They have been through millions of documents and produced a huge and challenging piece of work. But ultimately, as they recognise, they have never actually had to make the decision they have been examining. Such decisions are the stuff of leadership, which may explain why David Cameron, whose statement I have just listened to as I finish this, seemed to be speaking with considerable sympathy and support for his predecessor. He knows how hard these decisions are. He also knows that there may well be times in the future where we have to put our armed forces in harm’s way once more.

Pass the fucking sick bag.

 

[dylanredefined]

So what date did you arrive?

0ctober 03

 

[agricola]

This is absurd. He is saying that he will release a study showing that, where there is a likelyhood that islamism may be a problem, that it would be best to not just carry out regime change but to advocate a more gradual process.

This is after an hour of him saying he was right to do what he did.

 

[DotCommunist]

godwins

 

[agricola]

hard and soft power returns

 

[8den]

Christ; Blunkett now on R5 saying how he'd do it all again.

"Regrets I've had a few, just not a disastrous military intervention"

 

[DaveCinzano]

 

[DotCommunist]

this really is a masterclass in mendacity. He's outright lied about six times by my count

 

[agricola]

"This is why I spend so much time in the middle east.... why I work for middle east peace"

Perhaps you should do a little less, Tony.

 

[Pickman's model]

this really is a masterclass in mendacity. He's outright lied about six times by my count

surely then a masterclass in how not to lie, as all the best liars never get caught out

 

[DotCommunist]

so will everyone else you cunt

 

[Pickman's model]

"This is why I spend so much time in the middle east.... why I work for middle east peace"

Perhaps you should do a little less, Tony.

if he'd just said 'fair play i hold my hands up to a mistake which seemed like the right thing to do at the time' and left it at that everyone would be bowled over by his belated honesty. but by blathering on he makes it seem that chilcot's pulled his punches.

 

[DotCommunist]

surely then a masterclass in how not to lie, as all the best liars never get caught out

this is true. Maybe he used to be good or I used to be more niave

 

[agricola]

I can only hope Oborne is in the audience, gets to ask a question, and has had a good lunch so he is appropriately animated.

 

[DotCommunist]

I'm kevin spacey in House of Cards

 

[agricola]

if he'd just said 'fair play i hold my hands up to a mistake which seemed like the right thing to do at the time' and left it at that everyone would be bowled over by his belated honesty. but by blathering on he makes it seem that chilcot's pulled his punches.

That is what he thinks he is doing, yes. What Chilcot appears to have done (and it was noticeable when they were questioning him) is that they have realized that the best way to expose Blair is to get him to do it, not to challenge him so that he argues the point away.

 

[J Ed]

"The nightmare of Syria would be happening now in Iraq, except with the Sunni / Shia inverted"

This is like taking the principle of the butterfly effect and shitting all over it.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Losers have no friends, the Guardian weighs in.

'Tony Blair's epitaph was engraved today'. Our writers' verdicts on the Chilcot report

 

[Artaxerxes]

“I can look not just the families of this country but the nation in the eye and say: I did not mislead this country; I made the decision in good faith on the information I had at that time; and I believe it is better that we took that decision.

Absolute cheek of this man.

 

[Pickman's model]

Absolute cheek of this man.

i look forward to him coming round, looking me in the eye, telling me that load of auld shit and walking away with a shiner

 

[Wilf]

he'd be more of a spree killer, than serial

"It was the right thing to do"

Yes, spree. It's the point in the detective novel where they start wondering why the killings dried up for a few years - 'could it have been that he left parliament and concentrated on making his millions?'

Actually, it's all consistent. Mass killing and business, the two areas where the psychopathic personality shines.

 

[squirrelp]

this really is a masterclass in mendacity. He's outright lied about six times by my count

The man is a sociopath. He doesn't have a truthful bone in his body.

If he said the sun is shining you have to look up and check

 

[Wilf]

What happens when the coating on an old manky frying pan breaks down - Teflon Tony.

 

[DotCommunist]

y'know

oh how I've missed the tonyisms. Not

 

[DotCommunist]

look

 

[Wilf]

y'know

oh how I've missed the tonyisms. Not

Hi.