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What the fucking hell are you on about now?

Er, a different thread editor. Your mate being barred for racist language from a local pub. The same guy behind this 'protest'.

Do I need to spell everything out for you? Seriously?
 
And yet you are happy to promote a place selling both champagne and cheese just around the corner?
Once again, you've lost me here. What champagne bar am I "promoting"? Is it another one for well heeled, sorry well hoofed donkeys?
 
i presume these are people who own their properties - no one who rents can be happy about the fact they are about to get priced out of the area they've lived their whole life in - or maybe havent made the connection between the arrival of champagne bars and their rent going up. Either that or they're very rich in which case of course its great news.

The problem is that the transformation of London has made private renting just about impossible for the majority.
 
They were the most extreme ones you've picked there, and yes of course I find those opinions offensive.

But you can't ignore the fact that not all long-term Brixton residents are unhappy about the new influx of businesses. Yes, of course stall holders must be worried, and I too am deeply worried for them. I'd hate it if they were priced out, and I would actively join a campaign to prevent that. I facebooked and twittered the Noor petition a while back, so it's pretty obvious where I'm coming from.

I'm just aware that there is a breadth of opinion about all this, and I think it's important not to assume that it's only rich people who are positive about the changes.
 
Personally, I do find it interesting quite how many opinions there are on this subject - not everyone thinks what's happening is damaging Brixton. And it seems to me that the people who are happiest about it are the ones who've lived here all their lives.

the people i have asked too who are long-term, working class residents say that they are a lot happier with the place now it is changing.
 
Er, a different thread editor. Your mate being barred for racist language from a local pub. The same guy behind this 'protest'.

Do I need to spell everything out for you? Seriously?
Um, since when was he "my mate"? :confused:

You've already been slapped down for posting up made-up nonsense about pub banning, so please don't start that all over again because you're only going to end up looking even sillier.
 
Once again, you've lost me here. What champagne bar am I "promoting"? Is it another one for well heeled, sorry well hoofed donkeys?

Um. The one you designed the website for advertising champagne at a bargain 6.50.

You are smarter than this.
 
But you can't ignore the fact that not all long-term Brixton residents are unhappy about the new influx of businesses.
Are you not reading my posts? Look:
I've no doubt some long term Brixton residents are delighted to have a jolly upmarket champagne bar on their doorstep, but that doesn't mean that anyone who disagrees can be dismissed out of hand as non-residents, dole-scroungers, council house spongers or any of the other usual right wing shit that is applied to just about anyone protesting about anything from Stop The War to Gay Rights to the old Reclaim The Streets parties.
 
Um, since when was he "my mate"? :confused:

You've already been slapped down for posting up made-up nonsense about pub banning, so please don't start that all over again because you're only going to end up looking even sillier.

He wasn't banned from the grosvenor? Apols if not. A staff member said he was.
 
Um. The one you designed the website for advertising champagne at a bargain 6.50.

You are smarter than this.
Sorry, are you still going on about a small site I designed for a friend in 2003? A decade ago? When it was a cheap cafe.
Really? :facepalm:

Oh, and since when do they sell cheese?
 
leanderman said:
Exactly - it is interesting to hear different perspectives, however disagreeable.

A problem with Twitter, for example, is the risk of following people who think just like you.

'You' meaning me, or 'you' meaning 'one'?
I'm a lesbian, real ale swilling, hairy legged member of the Green party, fwiw :-D
 
editor said:
Only if you believe the comments written by the wholly unrepresentative minority posting comments on an article that represents an equally unrepresentative minority of Brixton residents.

How do you know they're an unrepresentative minority?
 
leanderman said:
Exactly - it is interesting to hear different perspectives, however disagreeable.

A problem with Twitter, for example, is the risk of following people who think just like you.

Oh god sorry, I see what you mean. God I'm thick! :-D
 
How do you know they're an unrepresentative minority?
Oh come on han, you're smarter than this. urban75 is infinitely busier than the Brixton Blog and even I know that what's written here doesn't represent anything other than the thoughts of the individuals posting (even if, unusually, quite a few of the people posting are known to each other in the real world).

Why do you think the mainly anonymous comments on the Blog are any different?
 
You said he was banned from the Albert. He's not. You made that up. A lie, if you will.

I apologized. I assumed asking 'can anybody speak fucking English around here' was a banning offence. It's the sort of thing that used to be.
 
Leanderman - You're right. That's why I follow the Israeli Defence Forces as well as the Palestine Solidarity Campaign. ;-)
 
Sorry, are you still going on about a small site I designed for a friend in 2003? A decade ago? When it was a cheap cafe.
Really? :facepalm:

Oh, and since when do they sell cheese?

Fucking HELL!

Sort your shit out man, or redesign their fucking menu.
 
Fucking HELL!

Sort your shit out man, or redesign their fucking menu.
Sorry, still can't work out what you're on about. I've never designed a menu for the Lounge. However, I did a small website for them ten years ago when they were a small cafe, and as far as I know, they still don't sell a range of expensive cheeses, neither do they describe themselves as a champagne bar.
 
I apologized. I assumed asking 'can anybody speak fucking English around here' was a banning offence. It's the sort of thing that used to be.
You really have lost the plot here. What you think may or may not be a banning offence in a pub has precisely zero relevance in the real world, yet that didn't stop you making up claims about it. Weird.
 
Oh come on han, you're smarter than this. urban75 is infinitely busier than the Brixton Blog and even I know that what's written here doesn't represent anything other than the thoughts of the individuals posting (even if, unusually, quite a few of the people posting are known to each other in the real world).

Why do you think the mainly anonymous comments on the Blog are any different?

It may be that Brixton has more pro- than anti-gentrifiers. Who knows?
 
editor said:
Oh come on han, you're smarter than this. urban75 is infinitely busier than the Brixton Blog and even I know that what's written here doesn't represent anything other than the thoughts of the individuals posting (even if, unusually, quite a few of the people posting are known to each other in the real world).

But why don't they represent the views of the community? Do you think people posting on urban75 are exclusively white middle class? I doubt it, and I think the same of Brixton Blog.

Just because Brixton Blog is created by white middle class newcomers, it doesn't mean that the people commenting on the article necessarily are.

Just an aside - the voices of dissent are always louder than the silent majority. Just look at when Boris Johnson got in. Everyone I know, including me, was rabidly against him becoming mayor. He still did though, obviously I was in a minority :-(
 
But why don't they represent the views of the community?
Because people who can be bothered to read and post in niche local blogs are already - by definition - a self-selecting few.

I'm sure they represent the view of some people in the community, but they don't represent "the community" as a whole any more than my personal views do here.

They're just individuals - mainly anonymous ones - posting their personal opinions from God knows where.

Personally, I hope the bloke banging on about dole scroungers reflects a tiny minority of local opinion, but I fear I'm wrong.
 
Just because Brixton Blog is created by white middle class newcomers, it doesn't mean that the people commenting on the article necessarily are.

:-(

That's not quite right. One of the two founders went to primary school in Brixton!
 
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