The Black Hand
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You must have been born stupid cos you clearly do not have too work at it.
Policing, police powers and attidues are everywhere.
Central London mob attacks people in Hyde park
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You must have been born stupid cos you clearly do not have too work at it.
Policing, police powers and attidues are everywhere.
And a good job too. Can't have those water fights getting out of hand now can we?
Oops, I've just spilt a bit of drink down my shirt. I'll have to punch myself.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Proper police procedure should clearly be laughing at teenagers kicking a tramp in the face, calling them ragamuffins and rewarding them with a sherbet dip, all while muttering "kids eh? Well I was young once too"
untethered
For industry & decency
So if there's a possibility that the riders might not be upper class then causing innocent people to fall off their horses is potentially problematical. However, if you know for sure that they're upper class then they deserve it. Yes?
The Black Hand
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Good.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
I think this is how it works. But if they are upper class, but wearing a designer T-shirt, which gets damaged when they fall off, then things are a little less clear. I think this means that it's OK that they fell off the horse, but they can punch you if they want. But not if you're a woman. Oh, no, maybe you can because gender is not relevant, although toffness is. Sorry, now I've got in a muddle. Ignore everything I just said.
The Black Hand
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cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Upper class always bad, beaten by gender neutral class warriors
What constitutes upper class nowadays?
untethered
For industry & decency
Anyone with more sense than Attica.
The Black Hand
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This is not a complete list, but start with these;
Royalty, aristocracy, gentry, toffs, directors/chairs of top 500 companies, the cabinet, chief executives of councils, Lord Lieutenants of counties, privy council, those in management of city brokers, insurance, stock exchange, and banks and other financial institutions, chief constables and deputy chief constables, Armed forces (air/navy/army/ t.a.) officers up to and including general staff...
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cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Interesting. The latter includes NCOs does it?
The Black Hand
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No.
cesare
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So ... a Flying Officer would be upper class but a Warrant Officer would be, maybe, middle class - yes?
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Probably yes.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
How odd and inconsistent.
untethered
For industry & decency
I think so. It's obviously an aspirational activity.
Today's middle-class rider is tomorrow's toff. Look at "Kate" Middleton, for example.
If everyone pushed the middle classes from their horses, the aristocracy would inbreed itself to extinction within a generation.
The Black Hand
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Why?
The line is drawn somewhere, and I am trying to draw it above those who might get a stripe or 2 (working class), but do not have the control capabilities of command and responsibility that a middle class post has.
Also then there is a line between the middle class administrators in the reproduction of armed forces life, and those who have an effect on policy and practice - who are the lower reaches of the upper class.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
But didn't you see the list? Not all upper class are toffs. Some skip the whole middle class stage altogether. So you would also have to push any working class off their horses if, for example, you had good reason to suspect they were training to be a bank manager.
untethered
For industry & decency
Has it ever occurred to you that nearly every member of the armed forces is fully committed to playing their part in defending the country and its interests, from the lowliest recruit to the chief of the defence staff.
Your distinction is entirely bogus. Some may have more power than others (and more pay) but they are all willingly part of a common enterprise, in all its good and bad manifestations.
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hiraethified
Are you working class then Attica?
What's your job?
PS Have you ever been to a football game in your life? And if so, when was the last time you went?
claphamboy
The wheels on the bus go round and round....
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Perhaps you are unfamiliar with what the rank of Warrant Officer entails?
And someone with a working class background, can even get a commission without a degree. In the case of the RAF, starting at Pilot Officer then on to Flying Officer. Junior ranks.
untethered
For industry & decency
What about the police? All police officers start at the rank of constable, whether they're straight out of school or whether they've just got their BA (Oxon.) Jurisprudence.
Should we distinguish constables on the accelerated promotion scheme from their seemingly-similar colleagues who are likely to spend the best part of their careers in that rank?
Should we distinguish constables on the accelerated promotion scheme from their seemingly-similar colleagues who are likely to spend the best part of their careers in that rank?
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Boring.
Is that actually what all posts, except your own, look like to you? That would explain quite a lot.
Only middle-sized horses.
