Central London mob attacks people in Hyde park

[STFC]

(but not the right wing bit). And if that makes me sexist, so be it.

But Attica isn't advocating or excusing DV etc etc IMO....

But we weren't discussing domestic violence, we were discussing a specific incident in which the girl appeared to have been punched for throwing red liquid over the bloke's shirt. That was deemed by Attica to be "worth a punch". It's there for all to see.

If I'm sexist for thinking it's wrong to hit a girl then I'm very happy to be a sexist.

 

[The Black Hand]

But we weren't discussing domestic violence, we were discussing a specific incident in which the girl appeared to have been punched for throwing red liquid over the bloke's shirt. That was deemed by Attica to be "worth a punch". It's there for all to see.

If I'm sexist for thinking it's wrong to hit a girl then I'm very happy to be a sexist.

U go on and on and on with your holier than thou right wing shite despite what has been written. ffs. give it a rest then read what's been written again.

 

[The Black Hand]

If I'm sexist for thinking it's wrong to hit a girl then I'm very happy to be a sexist.

Even today I would lump Maggie Thatcher, and the Queen if I could. I want my day in court to defend myself

 

[lights.out.london]

*gets spare deckchair*

 

[teuchter]

It's a product of my childhood that it's even worse of it's a woman who gets hit, but unacceptable even if it's a man.

I don't understand why there should be any distinction at all.

 

[STFC]

U go on and on and on with your holier than thou right wing shite despite what has been written. ffs. give it a rest then read what's been written again.

No, I go on about it because of what was written, by you. I'm not holier than thou, but I have a very strong dislike of men who hit women. It comes from experience. It's got fuck all to do with political leanings.

 

[The Black Hand]

No, I go on about it because of what was written, by you. I'm not holier than thou, but I have a very strong dislike of men who hit women. It comes from experience. It's got fuck all to do with political leanings.

Did yuo miss this then;

There is a difference between arguing about the respective worth of damage in terms of punishment generally, and to a specific individual. I do think that if somebody deliberately ruins an expensive shirt on a night out, then a punch is probably enough punishment. Others would, can and do give a kicking.

But I also do not want to fall into the sexist trap of treating people differently because of their gender. Equality means taking responsibility and in this case she wasn't very responsible, she was reckless in fact with other peoples stuff. I understand that bloke if he pushed her over, that seems at least equal and fair to what a bloke should expect for the same 'offence' i would have thought. That sort of anti social behaviour I have no time for.

 

[STFC]

You are now attempting to qualify your comments, well bollocks to that. The incident under discussion was in Hyde Park, not a night out.

The appropriate response to that girl's actions would have been to chuck a bit of the liquid over her. Yes, she was wrong, and I would have been angry if I was the bloke, but I would never have inflicted violence on her under any circumstances, let alone over something so trivial. To hit a woman is the mark of a cunt, in my ever so humble opinion. It's tantamount to bullying.

 

[teuchter]

I do think that if somebody deliberately ruins an expensive shirt on a night out, then a punch is probably enough punishment. Others would, can and do give a kicking.

All this on the thread starting off with outrage at police "mob violence". Hmmm.

 

[Shippou-Sensei]

All this on the thread starting off with outrage at police "mob violence". Hmmm.

attica ... ban the police and bring back caning?

 

[exosculate]

Feel free to ignore me. It'd be no fucking loss.

That is remarkably insightful of you!

 

[newme]

Im a complete fucking moron, during this post I will drone on continually about anything other than the numerous points made against me, then add in some drivvle about class just to make sure theres no doubt about the level my idiocy. Im also quite the hypocrit, I think its fine to give a woman a smack if she throws coloured liquid at me, but if the police try to stop me from finishing the job then thats waaaaaay out of order, for someone who blathers on about class so much Ive also got quite the penchant for designer labels and the right to violently defend them.

.

 

[8den]

Equality means taking responsibility and in this case she wasn't very responsible, she was reckless in fact with other peoples stuff. I understand that bloke if he pushed her over, that seems at least equal and fair to what a bloke should expect for the same 'offence' i would have thought. That sort of anti social behaviour I have no time for.

Hang on

a mob of police violently attack playful youths having a water fight in Hyde Park

So you've gone from "playful youths" to "anti social behaviour" in 14 pages.

Attica you are the only person I know who, without hypocrisy or double standards, would be bereft of either a personal or political philosophy.

 

[quimcunx]

You are good at the dibble line, i'll give you that. it's not my line though sweetie

As opposed to the big, fat, white line of coke that you seem to have had?

*gets spare deckchair*

*takes a seat beside LoL*


Thread of the year! Next time someone starts a thread asking about class I shall direct them here for the definitive explanation.

 

[El Jefe]

Attica you are the only person I know who, without hypocrisy or double standards, would be bereft of either a personal or political philosophy.

That is so laser-guidedly accurate, succint, perfect and bang on, I want to hug you

 

[scifisam]

Can I just say that the lad that hit this girl looks like a teenager himself. Not a defence I know but he deserves the same 'he's young and stupid' leniency that is seemingly being given to her.

He should not have hit her IMO but what the hell was she thinking really?

In the newspaper today it said that she's not pressing charges, which surprises me, and it surprises me that it should be her choice, given the photos, witnesses and hoo-ha. Maybe it wasn't actually a 'punch hard enough to knock her over,' after all. More a 'WTF do you think you're doing, get away from me' push, on wet ground.

He's still in the wrong far, far more than her, though - it was just a t-shirt.

 

[editor]

Maybe it wasn't actually a 'punch hard enough to knock her over,' after all.

What's surprising' about that? Maybe she's already totally fed up with the publicity and seeing her face in all the papers and would prefer not to have her actual name plastered all over the papers next?

Oh, and the unrepentant twat admits that he hit her:

"She just came out of nowhere and threw juice straight in my face. And the way she was laughing and trying to mock me. I admit I'm in the wrong. I mean fair enough, I hit a girl. But I had to take off my top and put it in the bin."

McInerney, of Ealing, West London, floored the girl at the Summer Splash water fight in Hyde Park. Hundreds of other teenagers were at the event.

The girl splashed him with pink water from a bottle and then ran away as he gave chase - thinking it was all part of the game.

But the youngster was in for a shock when seething McInerney suddenly lashed out and hit her, lifting her off her feet and sending her sprawling to the ground.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-st...n-t-apologise-to-girl-he-hit-115875-20684621/

This is the teenage thug who punched a girl off her feet after she soaked him during a fun water fight last week.

Daniel McInerney admitted he was in the wrong but refuses to apologise to his 15-year-old victim - unless she says sorry first for chucking pink liquid over his T-shirt.

Fucking moronic prick.

 

[scifisam]

What's surprising' about that? Maybe she's already totally fed up with the publicity and seeing her face in all the papers and would prefer not to have her actual name plastered all over the papers next?

Oh, and the unrepentant twat admits that he hit her:

Fucking moronic prick.

Then I agree with you, that he is a moron, and he should be prosecuted. There's even a confession! He's got to understand that throwing coloured water over someone - at a water fight - is not on the same level of badness as hitting someone.

 

[editor]

Then I agree with you, that he is a moron, and he should be prosecuted. There's even a confession! He's got to understand that throwing coloured water over someone - at a water fight - is not on the same level of badness as hitting someone.

That prick thinks it's OK to hit a woman. Over a bit of spilt liquid.

 

[scifisam]

That prick thinks it's OK to hit a woman. Over a bit of spilt liquid.

I know. He needs to learn that it's not OK. Perhaps a prosecution would teach him that.

 

[editor]

I know. He needs to learn that it's not OK. Perhaps a prosecution would teach him that.

Where the fuck are his parents? He's still a child. Why are they letting him tell the press that he doesn't feel he has to apologise for smacking a young woman in the face?

 

[scifisam]

Where the fuck are his parents? He's still a child. Why are they letting him tell the press that he doesn't feel he has to apologise for smacking a young woman in the face?

I'm not sure what your point is. Do you think his parents should be prosecuted instead?

 

[Treacle Toes]

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He's still in the wrong far, far more than her, though - it was just a t-shirt.

What would your opinion be if he had hit another male for the same thing?

 

[Treacle Toes]

Where the fuck are his parents? He's still a child. Why are they letting him tell the press that he doesn't feel he has to apologise for smacking a young woman in the face?

I'm glad someone else is finally recognising this. One child has hit another.

Would your reaction be different if it had been between two girls or two boys?

I agree with you though about the apology though. That would have been something at least. Not because he is a boy though, but because lamping people isn't cool.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Dear Mr. McInerney,

I understand that you feel that you hit this young girl, however the Urban75 Forensic Pugalist Society has already concluded that in fact, due to your distance from victim and your stance, you merely pushed the girl and she slipped over.

However should you wish to continue in your delusion that you punched her, you have a friend in Attica cos your t-shirt did get wet. And friendship with Attica is a far harsher penalty than any court in this land is able to lay down.

Yours,
Me.

 

[ymu]

I don't understand why there should be any distinction at all.

Women tend to be smaller and less muscley than men so we usually have very little chance of defending ourselves against a physical attack by a man. This is why people tend to get particularly upset when a man hits a woman. It's not because they think that hitting a man is OK - they just think it's especiallly vile when the victim has little chance of defending themselves. Pick on someone your own size etc etc.

 

[STFC]

Dear Mr. McInerney,

I understand that you feel that you hit this young girl, however the Urban75 Forensic Pugalist Society has already concluded that in fact, due to your distance from victim and your stance, you merely pushed the girl and she slipped over.

However should you wish to continue in your delusion that you punched her, you have a friend in Attica cos your t-shirt did get wet. And friendship with Attica is a far harsher penalty than any court in this land is able to lay down.

Yours,
Me.

 

[d.a.s.h]

This is all a storm in a tea cup though isn't it.

Hyde Park was the setting for massive riots and punch-ups throughout Victorian times. Even a tea party for poor children paid for by Queen Victoria ended up with marquees being set alight and crowds fighting fist and boot with the police. Supersoaker High Noon and some kids falling off their ponies are not exactly in the same league.

That said young Master McInerney Esq is deserving of an educational slap from the girl's mates/dad.

 

[smokedout]

Where the fuck are his parents? He's still a child. Why are they letting him tell the press that he doesn't feel he has to apologise for smacking a young woman in the face?

should the police apologise to the children they peppersprayed?

 

[Jessiedog]

Women tend to be smaller and less muscley than men so we usually have very little chance of defending ourselves against a physical attack by a man. This is why people tend to get particularly upset when a man hits a woman. It's not because they think that hitting a man is OK - they just think it's especiallly vile when the victim has little chance of defending themselves. Pick on someone your own size etc etc.

I feel quite strongly that the "don't hit a woman" thing is both anachronistic and demeaning to women - it is divisive, perpetuates stereotypes and helps maintain the "battle of the sexes".

There is, as far as I can see, nothing intrinsically worse about a man hitting a woman than there is a woman hitting a man, a man hitting a man, or a woman hitting a woman..

Hitting anyone is not OK and hitting someone weaker or vulnerable is despicable - no matter they are male or female.


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