Celebrity Big Brother 2007

[Treacle Toes]

It's in The Sun

Also posted on and discussed on Digi spy.

 

[kyser_soze]

Yeah, cos that's a REALLY good use of police time isn't it? Watching a load of BB tapes to see if in their view what's been said is racist and constitutes a crime.

 

[Flanflinger]

Read it where? Could just be a standard thing to warn housemates, knowing that everything they say will be picked up by the microphones.

You'd only need to make such a request to someone if you knew they're likely to make racist comments.

 

[Orang Utan]

I find it amusing that when she came in the house, Jade said she was the most influenzal person in the world and the shitstorm her behaviour has caused will only serve to vindicate this belied.

 

[newbie]

Have you watched the whole show?....do you know any of the other comments that have be made?...the whole race argument is made up from more than one comment.
The bullying issue has digusted people as well.

yes. well, not the whole show, that's impossible, but I've been watching it since the start, and I've watched most of the previous series as well. I've also followed this thread since the start, though I don't post as compulsively as you

It's a gameshow ffs.

aye, the 'the whole race argument' is there and it's exactly that sort of thing that makes BB so compelling. It provokes arguments in pubs, chipshop queues and on messageboards. great, that's why I'm into it, because it exposes people for what they are. It even gets onto national news occasionally and shows itself to be more important than almost any other television. All good.

But criminal? Don't be so silly. Real people are really hurt by real racism and there is criminal law to help protect them. This is fodder for the chattering classes (you & me) to chatter about. not for some poxy copper to build a career out of.

 

[STFC]

Latest prices from William Hill (to win):

Shilpa Shetty 1.72
Cleo Rocos 5.00
Jermaine Jackson 8.00
Dirk Benedict 8.00
Ian H Watkins 11.00
Jo O' Meara 34.00
Danielle Lloyd 51.00

No Jade.

 

[Guineveretoo]

I still want cleo to win. I hope Shilpa doesn't win simply because she has been dignified in the face of a vitriolic attack from a gang of harpies!

 

[treelover]

Leaving aside guilt or not, Can i just say that some of the 'official' people who are going round the studios pushing their 21st version of the 'witchhunt', Lee Jasper, Keith Vaz, and the culture secretary Tessa Jowell are some of the most odious politicians and apparatchiks in the country. Imo, using the debacle for their own ends, I think Liberty's Shami Chakrabarti on Question Time made the most balanced and humane comments about the whole sorry saga.


btw, Vaz was a supporter of the satanic verses protesters

 

[Griff]

Dear oh dear

 

[Sweaty Betty]

Dear oh dear

What next!!!!

 

[Sweaty Betty]

Yeah, cos that's a REALLY good use of police time isn't it? Watching a load of BB tapes to see if in their view what's been said is racist and constitutes a crime.

you are sooo spot on mate

 

[han]

I still want cleo to win. I hope Shilpa doesn't win simply because she has been dignified in the face of a vitriolic attack from a gang of harpies!

But Cleo has been so......spineless! She hasn't even expressed ANY distaste at the 3 harpies' behaviour...

I wanted her to win in the beginning, too. But her true colours have come out on this show. She's not prepared to stand up for what's right, or even to express it in the diary room (like Ian did), which makes her a bit suspect IMO.

I'd be happy if Shilpa, Jermaine or Ian won (in that order). Shilpa's dignity and self-control in this situation has been incredible.

 

[Mogden]

Sky TV News currently reporting no public audience for tonight's eviction. No great surprises there.

 

[newbie]

I wanted her to win in the beginning, too. But her true colours have come out on this show

true colours!!11!!1!

be afraid, be very afraid, talk like that might be construed as, well, as criminal and, and ,and....

 

[Guineveretoo]

But Cleo has been so......spineless! She hasn't even expressed ANY distaste at the 3 harpies' behaviour...

I wanted her to win in the beginning, too. But her true colours have come out on this show. She's not prepared to stand up for what's right, or even to express it in the diary room (like Ian did), which makes her a bit suspect IMO.

I'd be happy if Shilpa, Jermaine or Ian won (in that order). Shilpa's dignity and self-control in this situation has been incredible.

I agree that Cleo has been a bit spineless over the bullying stuff, but I am just worried that Shilpa will win solely because of the bullying stuff, so I am trying to think about who I would support if there hadn't been any bullying or allegations of racism or whatever.

I really can't tell how much of the bullying and racist remarks the other housemates have actually seen. Cleo, for example, will have seen some fights, and some snide remarks, but she won't have seen Danielle lying to Jade about things have been said, and stirring her up, nor will she have seen Jo laughing whilst Jade screamed at Shilpa, nor heard the three of them making blatant and unpleasant racist remarks to each other about Shilpa.

The bad thing about Jade coming out tonight, which is inevitable, is all the interviews and publicity which will surround her over the next little while. I would rather they locked her away somewhere and kept her quiet!

 

[Sweaty Betty]

Sky TV News currently reporting no public audience for tonight's eviction. No great surprises there.

good !!!!! they may have acted horribly, but sorry, they dont deserve to come out to a baying lynch mob!

 

[Griff]

good !!!!! they may have acted horribly, but sorry, they dont deserve to come out to a baying lynch mob!

Jade this evening.

 

[STFC]

good !!!!! they may have acted horribly, but sorry, they dont deserve to come out to a baying lynch mob!

Nobody would get lynched. Other housemates have been booed by the crowd, sometimes unfairly. Jade deserves it.

 

[sorter]

if the crowds have been cancelled, then that must mean the police and those concerned have been privy to the vote count so far. what do you think it could be??

90% against 10% ?

 

[newbie]

I might be changing my mind on that- maybe coming out to an eerie silence and a bunch of gun toting cops would have more effect than the traditional booing.


I'm still slightly concerned that it may be shilpa that goes, though.

 

[han]

I really can't tell how much of the bullying and racist remarks the other housemates have actually seen. Cleo, for example, will have seen some fights, and some snide remarks, but she won't have seen Danielle lying to Jade about things have been said, and stirring her up, nor will she have seen Jo laughing whilst Jade screamed at Shilpa, nor heard the three of them making blatant and unpleasant racist remarks to each other about Shilpa.

That's very true. I hadn't thought about that!

But I think Shilpa's been so dignified over all this, I want her to win now. Failing that, Jermaine. I love Jermaine.

Jermaine for president!!!

lol@ Griff!

 

[han]

I'm still slightly concerned that it may be shilpa that goes, though.

That would be an indictment on our f*cked up society!!

 

[PacificOcean]

I'm still slightly concerned that it may be shilpa that goes, though.

Not with the Sun calling in it's editoral to show that Britian isn't racist and urging all it's readers to vote out Jade for the good of the country.

 

[sorter]

there's no way shilpa is going if the crowds have been cancelled.

 

[Sweaty Betty]

Nobody would get lynched. Other housemates have been booed by the crowd, sometimes unfairly. Jade deserves it.

I think you underestimate the media hype surrounding this story.

We brits love to hate and whilst booing is rather deserved, i wouldnt want to risk taking the chance personally, she aint no criminal ...

 

[girasol]

I think Cleo is the kind of person who likes to see everyone's side - but in this instance I think it's important to take sides, as there was bullying (and to some, racism, to others xenophobia - but essentially bullying) involved.

I still think she (Cleo) is a good person. Nobody is perfect.

 

[Guineveretoo]

I might be changing my mind on that- maybe coming out to an eerie silence and a bunch of gun toting cops would have more effect than the traditional booing.


I'm still slightly concerned that it may be shilpa that goes, though.

I think Jade will be expecting a crowd, and will be expecting to be bullied, and will also expect to be told "it's only pantomime". I think it will shock, surprise and punish her much more to come out to an empty studio!

Also, Channel 4 have a duty to protect her, and the hysteria which has been expressed would make them unable to be confident that the crowd would only boo!

 

[Mogden]

I really can't tell how much of the bullying and racist remarks the other housemates have actually seen. Cleo, for example, will have seen some fights, and some snide remarks, but she won't have seen Danielle lying to Jade about things have been said, and stirring her up, nor will she have seen Jo laughing whilst Jade screamed at Shilpa, nor heard the three of them making blatant and unpleasant racist remarks to each other about Shilpa.

I was all for Cleo at the start but Jack commented one evening this week that they should pick up Shilpa, who was in bed at the time, throw her out into the garden and lock the doors at which point Cleo laughed at the suggestion. I watched a video of it on YouTube or Google vids cos it wasn't shown in the highlights show. I didn't find her manner to be an embarassed or uncomfortable laugh which made me a bit uneasy.

 

[Belushi]

I'm still slightly concerned that it may be shilpa that goes, though.

I wouldnt be, Im betting Jade is going to receive the biggest evict vote in BB history.

While ime opinion is divided about whether the bullying has been racially inspired, I've yet to talk to anyone who thinks Jade hasn't been bullying Shilpa.

 

[Mogden]

So will Jack walk out too when Jade goes??