danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Oh Jesus, why on earth do you think that's an acceptable thing to say? You are a vile misogynist, and I wouldn't be sorry if I never saw you again round these parts.DJ Triviality said:
Celebrity Big Brother 2007
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jiggajagga said:
This was the bit that really resonated with me. Thing is, I bet lots of the asian middle england (or whatever they're called) is now thinking that this is what the UK is really about. I fucking hope this show isn't given too much coverage in India.
I used to respect Jade for doing so well out of her Big Brother fame. So much for that!
Jade's reaction was ott,way out of order and disproportionate but I think she definitely has a point about Shilpa and the way she acts.
Shilpa is obviously from a society and culture where people respect their elders, and obviously thinks that Jade et al should automatically bow down to her somewhat. A form of control freakery imo.
Couple this with an inferiority complex from Jade, who has probably spent her whole life with people looking down at her because of her social status, and you have a ticking timebomb ready to happen.
I think that Jade also harbours a hidden resentment that Shilpa is somehow responsible for the eviction of her mother. Before then, you often saw Jade actually sticking up for Shilpa and being a lot more compassionate.
As we've seen before, the BB house can create a pressure cooker environment, and tonight Jade looked like someone who has let resentment build and build and build (possibly because her communication skills aren't that good and she doesn't know how to express her frustrations), and then has finally snapped.
Shilpa is obviously from a society and culture where people respect their elders, and obviously thinks that Jade et al should automatically bow down to her somewhat. A form of control freakery imo.
Couple this with an inferiority complex from Jade, who has probably spent her whole life with people looking down at her because of her social status, and you have a ticking timebomb ready to happen.
I think that Jade also harbours a hidden resentment that Shilpa is somehow responsible for the eviction of her mother. Before then, you often saw Jade actually sticking up for Shilpa and being a lot more compassionate.
As we've seen before, the BB house can create a pressure cooker environment, and tonight Jade looked like someone who has let resentment build and build and build (possibly because her communication skills aren't that good and she doesn't know how to express her frustrations), and then has finally snapped.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Where have I said it's OK to be a hideous bully?exosculate said:
The reasonI want to establish the facts is that I think it's important that terms like 'racist' aren't devalued; they should mean something. Criticisms to be valid must be accurate - Jade has shown herself to be a vile bully, but she is not a racist. Danielle, on the other hand is a racist.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Shilpa is annoying; no doubt. And committed the cardinal sin of referring to herself in the third person. But that does not excuse the bullying she has be subjected to.RaverDrew said:
spanglechick
High Empress of Dressing Up
bouncer_the_dog said:
how is she fat?
look at her arms, ffs!
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
That wasn't funny. Not in the slightest.N_igma said:
bouncer_the_dog
Well-Known Member
spanglechick said:
how is she fat?
look at her arms, ffs!
She has fat ankles.
On class:
Class isn't your wealth, job title or family connection. That's a myth generated to help explain unequal distribution of income.It's roots go back to the Feudal system.
Class is how you comport yourself. How you behave. The way you interact with people.
Resorting to rude words to create an effect, whoever does it, is acting with vulgarity. It's not classy, and discredits the argument that someone is making.
Jade's mother certainly has a racist streak. Jade carries the same streak. Elsewhere on the thread someone smart mentioned three racially-based slurs she made.
Merely because a Channel 4 statement said there has been no overt racism is to avoid the nature of racism itself. Racism - as any woman who has ever been turned down for the top job in their chosen career will be well aware of (though then it is called Sexism) - is rarely overt. It's about ways of behaviour, prejudice, and giggling gaggles of folk who refuse to take you seriously.
If there's a positive to this national disaster - and it is, you know - it is that it exposes the actual nature of racist behaviour.
So what we gonna do about it?
Class isn't your wealth, job title or family connection. That's a myth generated to help explain unequal distribution of income.It's roots go back to the Feudal system.
Class is how you comport yourself. How you behave. The way you interact with people.
Resorting to rude words to create an effect, whoever does it, is acting with vulgarity. It's not classy, and discredits the argument that someone is making.
Jade's mother certainly has a racist streak. Jade carries the same streak. Elsewhere on the thread someone smart mentioned three racially-based slurs she made.
Merely because a Channel 4 statement said there has been no overt racism is to avoid the nature of racism itself. Racism - as any woman who has ever been turned down for the top job in their chosen career will be well aware of (though then it is called Sexism) - is rarely overt. It's about ways of behaviour, prejudice, and giggling gaggles of folk who refuse to take you seriously.
If there's a positive to this national disaster - and it is, you know - it is that it exposes the actual nature of racist behaviour.
So what we gonna do about it?
exosculate
a stagger with a beat
DJ Triviality said:
That is very out of order.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
He was - in short - being 'ironic' when he said "I think a damn good arse raping would sort her out"? Is that the argument?N_igma said:
exosculate
a stagger with a beat
danny la rouge said:
I thought Jade laughed at the go back home comment. Surely tacit approval, no?
N_igma said:
so you think rape is funny?
bouncer_the_dog said:
you're truly pathetic, aren't you?
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Did she? I missed that. If so, then you're right, she's a racist.exosculate said:
colacubes
Mr Hot Cookie
spanglechick said:
how is she fat?
look at her arms, ffs!
She's not fat.
She's not ugly.
She IS a an ignorant bully and that's the issue that should be being discussed. The other misogynistic bullshit that some people on this thread have said frankly makes them as bad as what she is doing.
bouncer_the_dog
Well-Known Member
Ok I'll concede the fat argument. But she is ugly as far as I'm concerned, and that's before you get to her behaviour.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Indeed, absolutely. Let's keep the sex and socio-economic background of the bullies out of this: they are bullies.nipsla said:She IS a an ignorant bully and that's the issue that should be being discussed. The other misogynistic bullshit that some people on this thread have said frankly makes them as bad as what she is doing.
N_igma
Epistemic nuisance
danny la rouge said:
What's irony got to do with it?
His comment was not meant to be taken seriously. If he had said she deserves a good slap in the face (which is bad also) it wouldn't have been taken as seriously. He was just being hyperbolical in what he thinks should happen to her to wise her up. Well that's my take on it. It was a silly comment but not something to be taken totally seriously.
Dub-don't put words in my mouth.
D'wards
IT'S YOUR DECISION DANIEL
nipsla said:She's not fat.
She's not ugly.
She IS a an ignorant bully and that's the issue that should be being discussed. The other misogynistic bullshit that some people on this thread have said frankly makes them as bad as what she is doing.
I agree, and even if she was thats not a reason to attack her, in fact its picking on the irrelevant supposed weak points of someone you dislike to attack them - like being Indian for example
bouncer_the_dog said:
and how does her apparent ugliness bear any relevance to her behaviour? Ifd you're concerned about her behaviour, you'd be best served commenting on that. As several people have pointed out, failing to do so makes you as bad as her.
nipsla said:She IS a an ignorant bully and that's the issue that should be being discussed. The other misogynistic bullshit that some people on this thread have said frankly makes them as bad as what she is doing.
Yep. Apparently she was a patron of some anti-bullying charity:
http://www.metro.co.uk/fame/article.html?in_article_id=33261&in_page_id=7
She's going to get a real shock when she gets out of the house.
I think I've watched enough big brother though.
DJ Squelch
King Of Insides
D'wards said:
Thats this seasons in "look" you fool.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
The point, though, is whether your opinion on her level of attractiveness is relevant.bouncer_the_dog said:
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