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se's not even remotely fat now, though, is she? fake boobs and a round face but a size 12, i'd say, max.

so why do people keep calling her fat?:confused:
 
Dubversion said:
so did anyone else find that diary room scene with danielle very suspect.

Like either it was fed / scripted to allay controversy, or to give a hint to people in the house that they need to moderate their behaviour?

it seemed very convenient, very false, very placatory.

We said the same thing. It felt like certain unacceptable features of her behaviour were pointed out to her, by simply pointing out some simple basic truths about people, her or others, acting unacceptably. And once she heard these simple truths, she fookin repeated them in a state of stunned realisation.
 
The only way to ensure Jade etal get their dues is to ensure that Shilpa wins come hell or high water.
The most telling part of tonights show is the part where Shilpa says " This is what the UK is about?"
WE have to show Shilpa that most of us are decent people and that Jade etal are just the bottom of the barrel.

By the way, cracking putdown by Shilpa " You are famous for this, Big Brother?"
 
spanglechick said:
se's not even remotely fat now, though, is she? fake boobs and a round face but a size 12, i'd say, max.

so why do people keep calling her fat?:confused:


because it suits the same misogynist agenda in operation last time she was in her house.

the thing is, the more they couch it in these terms, the more they're actually deflecting away from the issue of those three's deplorable behaviour towards shilpa. But then their outrage is a mock outrage anyway
 
spanglechick said:
the really poor behaviour seems to be from Jo and danielle. Their giggling while jade was genuinely (if unfairly) angry shows a lack of empathy with jade showed them up to be just as disdainful of her as they were of Shilpa, imo.

Couldn't agree more. I thought it was really telling when Jade was screaming at Shilpa and there was a shot of Jo sitting behind her cushion looking incredibly uncomfortable. But the moment Shilpa left the room she and Danielle started pissing themselves laughing saying that really brightened up their day. Pure gang mentality and really horrible. :(
 
That was awful. I was disappointed though that they didn't show a bit of the hour long rant that Jade had later on when everyone else was in bed where she said that she wanted to headbutt Shilpa and Jack suggested that they lift up the sleeping Shilpa and dump her in the garden.

Cleo laughed at that by the way...
 
OK, Jade's onslaught was vile bullying, and unacceptable. But she's no racist. The racist is the sly, two-faced WAG. Danielle's face said it all when she was asked about The Phrase in the Diary Room - she was sorry she'd been caught out, she was wondering how best to claw back some credibility and public sympathy, and she knew she had fucked up in the public eye. But she wasn't sorry for being a racist, and she wasn't sorry for bullying Shilpa.
 
pagan said:
It's not really racism, just incredibly ugly ignorance


i think i agree. it's not so much that she's Indian, more that she's not english. It's xenophobia, stupidity and also i think just a stick to beat her with
 
Now this could be a few pages late, but I wanted to say a few words about this "working class culture" defence some involved in this debate seem to wield.

For me, working class culture is the Tolpuddle Martyrs; it's the Chartists; it's the men bent double in trenches in WW1; it's the people sent to Australia in chains for carving their name on Westminster bridge; it's the boys and girls who fought in WW2 against the Nazis, including my grandad, left for dead on the beach at Dunkirk with Stuka shrapnel in his leg; it's the Spanish Civil War; the Russian Revolution; the secret libraries and literacy teaching; the songs; the spirit of 1938 and 68; it's rock N' roll; it's the march against the Poll Tax, it's the people in the social club, who'll buy you a pint and give you a game of darts - even if they've only got a few quid; it's a cup of tea with your gran; it's people holding down a job so they can go to college; or holding down two jobs so they can look after their kids. There's more images, we all hold them, and I hope you get my drift.

Working class culture is NOT Jade Goody.

Nor is it Danielle, with her tragic excuse that "I can't remember saying that" when she was confronted with her statement that Shilpa should, "Just go home". I don't buy that excuse. I've had a few drinks in my time, and within the tightly-regulated alcohol intake of Big Brother and the non-existent drugs routine, there's no way the woman was out of it enough to forget anything. So, she's worse than Jade, who is at least just an outspoken bully with no class; Danielle is duplicitous, a liar, and clearly carries a racist strand.

Jo? She's a lost soul. Not totally bad, not totally good. The Big Brother psycological vetting process let her down. Look at the state of her.

Big Brother has only ever been an ugly travesty of the whole notion of what televised entertainment is all about. It lets itself down, the participants down, the viewers down, and this time around it's even let the country down.

Close it down.
 
Dubversion said:
no, i just don't like sneering, misogynist, snobbish arseholes like you and all the other twats on this thread who are everything they're accusing Jade and the other two of being.

Sticks in my craw, you odious prick.

LoL you are doing a virtual Jade now of trying to bully me while running around screaming...virtually that is. Which is of course your typical behaviour on this website anyway. You are the snobby sneer master. As everyone who reads u75 knows due to your ability to post on every single thread ever made. But more importantly I am not a misogynist. But I will stand by my comment that jade is a fat, stupid, hideous reality TV star. It is the incontrovertible truth!
 
how the fuck am i bullying you, you daft cunt? Am i tying faster or using a bigger font size. Fuck me, you're a tit.

oh. and about the fat thing.

a) she's not
b) why do you consider that a valid insult?
 
danny la rouge said:
OK, Jade's onslaught was vile bullying, and unacceptable. But she's no racist. The racist is the sly, two-faced WAG. Danielle's face said it all when she was asked about The Phrase in the Diary Room - she was sorry she'd been caught out, she was wondering how best to claw back some credibility and public sympathy, and she knew she had fucked up in the public eye. But she wasn't sorry for being a racist, and she wasn't sorry for bullying Shilpa.

yeah. jade obviously has anger issues and an obsession with being "able to speak my mind" (without any concept of what effect that might have) but there was very little in that outburst that could be possibly interpreted as racist.

danielle on the other hand....
 
rocketman said:
Danielle is duplicitous, a liar, and clearly carries a racist strand.
She's a racist. There can be no doubt. She didn't mean Shilpa should leave the house: she wouldn't have used that phrase about anyone else. It was clear, simple racism.
 
spanglechick said:
se's not even remotely fat now, though, is she? fake boobs and a round face but a size 12, i'd say, max.

so why do people keep calling her fat?:confused:

because people are stupid twats that a) think someone is fat when they are obviously not and b) think being fat is something to sneer at and a worthwhile target for their derision. so they're not much better than the people they are criticising, if at all IMVHO.
 
DJ Triviality said:
I dont think Danielle is racist, she's mislead.

I think a damn good arse raping would sort her out.

but, don't you see? that would make you as bad as her!
 
milesy said:
because people are stupid twats that a) think someone is fat when they are obviously not and b) think being fat is something to sneer at and a worthwhile target for their derision. so they're not much better than the people they are criticising, if at all IMVHO.


a point i've been making for some time, to very little effect. Which is quite depressing
 
tommers said:
yeah. jade obviously has anger issues and an obsession with being "able to speak my mind" (without any concept of what effect that might have) but there was very little in that outburst that could be possibly interpreted as racist.
Nothing racist in it at all. And I think the press trying to paint her as the ring leader has another agenda.

As for Danielle trying to paint herself as led by the crowd: no, I'm sorry Danielle, that doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
 
Dubversion said:
how the fuck am i bullying you, you daft cunt? Am i tying faster or using a bigger font size. Fuck me, you're a tit.

oh. and about the fat thing.

a) she's not
b) why do you consider that a valid insult?

Trying to.. by throwing your weight around. And using loads of swearwords too. Not very dignified is it.. a bit like Jade (who you love). RE: Fat. She is, I was just mentioning it.
 
Interesting to see how now, anyone that describes Jade as 'fat' ot 'ugly' is suddenly a misogynist.

Blimey. :eek:

Easier to see how easily the term 'racist' gets bandied about when you witness that bullshit.
 
danny la rouge said:
OK, Jade's onslaught was vile bullying, and unacceptable. But she's no racist. The racist is the sly, two-faced WAG. Danielle's face said it all when she was asked about The Phrase in the Diary Room - she was sorry she'd been caught out, she was wondering how best to claw back some credibility and public sympathy, and she knew she had fucked up in the public eye. But she wasn't sorry for being a racist, and she wasn't sorry for bullying Shilpa.



Oh yeah its alright she's not racist everyone, she's just a hideous bully.

I think they chose to show the Danielle thing to deflect from Jade anyway, who I think may be some sort of percieved cash cow for them, whilst Danielle is eminently dispensable.
 
danny la rouge said:
Nothing racist in it at all. And I think the press trying to paint her as the ring leader has another agenda.

hmmm.. I agree that she has said nothing racist.

but I do think she is the alpha female in that trio.
 
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