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Celebrity Big Brother 2007

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why has this series had so few nominations/evictions this year?? (accepting there have been a few walk)

we're going to be left with 6 housemates still in on the last weekend! are there going to be evictions on saturday too??
 
dolly's gal said:
i think he's gross.

as i said if he'd done that to me, i would have gone mad.

On Youtube, there's an interview with Shilpa's mum, where she told people the conditions under which shilpa took part in BB - what she would and would not do. So I think that if he'd crossed any of her pre-arranged lines, she would have been the first to say so.
 
It grieves me to say this but I think I'm done with Big Brother - the fact that the last couple of series (Celeb or regular) have just been chockful of nasty, bullying characters and this latest farrago have left a bad taste in my mouth, along with the fact that BB can do basically whatever they want e.g. put evicted housemates back in, the Jade situation with her being briefed about what was going on, her not having a public crowd on eviction, the big on stitch up all round really has left me a bit, well, miffed with it all :(

I'm not really going to boycott BB or give people a hard time for watching it I'm just going to stop watching it I reckon















but I'll probably end up hooked on BB8 :D
 
exosculate said:
No she would most probably have said

Sumfin don smell write

Well, Jade did say, 'I thought she would smell of curry' - I wonder if she thinks British people should all smell of fish'n chips?

I didn't realise, as I only heard of this row last week, that Jade, her mum and her boyfriend were all in the house with her at first. So I think C4 had a pretty good idea of what would happen this time. After all, they saw how Jade pissed people off in 2002 - so they put her back in BB with reinforcements??? Doesn't make sense to me unless they wanted to stir up a shit-storm - while in Jo, Danielle and Cleo they have produced 3 more 'celebrities' who can be famous for their ignorance and ego. They'll have shows made about them next.

As for where BB is going, they are advertising auditions in Birmingham for the next BB show - so I don't think they have any intention of stopping production.
 
icklefairy said:
According to DS - 5 up for a double eviction ......

Jo
Dirk
Shilpa
Ian
Cleo

Hopefully Cleo and Jo to go!!!

Ian is the only surprise there. No Danielle though.:(

Double eviction is very nice.

I would say Cleo and Jo are likely evictees, based on that list.
 
ZAMB said:
As for where BB is going, they are advertising auditions in Birmingham for the next BB show - so I don't think they have any intention of stopping production.

I think they should can the general public version. It's a bore fest.

But make CBB a little longer.. I don't care if it's morally correct or not - most morals change with time, anyway.. and I think it makes such good telly!

:)
 
newbie said:
I repeat, who has been "hurt really"?

What's the point of creating circumstances that haven't happened in order to get upset about them? This isn't about murder. This is about a bunch of people in a gameshow having an argument. nothing more.

Dirk is gonna get hurt, and on TV too, if the 3 witches succeed in their aim of making him 'crack'. They've been plotting it since the 'cleo seduces dirk' scene when he told her he wasn't interested. Topic came up again today. If they did manage to push him to a psychotic break would you still say 'well it's only a gameshow'?
 
Um.
I'm confused.
I've only watched bits and pieces in the morning over me cornflakes, I've been using this board to find out all the juicy bits but got bored with the Jade / Shilpa thing so I haven't checked recently.
Last I saw Cleo was everyone's favourite ... from recent comments, is she now an evil witch?
Is Jermaine really as lovely as he seems over my breakfast?
Is Dirk really a miserable arse or is he a beaten shell of a man?
If I had the energy I'd scroll back, but I've gone through four pages and am still finding Jade / Shilpa fall-out.
A Readers Digest of recent happening would be appreciated!
 
exosculate said:
No Danielle though.:(
It's a shame we won't have the pleasure of evicting Jo and Danielle, since Jade took the fall and it'd be nice to express our opinionss on those two.

Will there be a crowd for Jo's eviction? Anyone who was planning to go to Jade's planning to go for Jo's ousting instead?
 
ZAMB said:
Dirk is gonna get hurt, and on TV too, if the 3 witches succeed in their aim of making him 'crack'. They've been plotting it since the 'cleo seduces dirk' scene when he told her he wasn't interested. Topic came up again today. If they did manage to push him to a psychotic break would you still say 'well it's only a gameshow'?

well they've got three days left to do it in :D

The trouble with all this if, if, if is that it ignores the role of the public, which is rather the point of BB.

What happens if the treatment of Dirk becomes really nasty and harmful. He has choices, he's not an entirely powerless victim.

He can walk, he has that choice at any time;
he can complain to BB and see what happens;

or he can simply wait, play the game and let the public see what's going on and deal with it. That's the strategy that worked for Shilpa.

You've identified abusive behaviour, you can vote the perps out if you feel strongly. Indeed you can highlight it on threads like this and try to influence other people to vote. or maybe to complain to OFCOM or C4.

Why don't you trust the British public to protect the underdog? :confused:
 
danny la rouge said:
It's a shame we won't have the pleasure of evicting Jo and Danielle, since Jade took the fall and it'd be nice to express our opinionss on those two.

A pity that Danielle isn't up for ousting - it would be the height of injustice if she went on and won. My choices for eviction then would be the other 2 harpies, Jo and Cleo.
 
newbie said:
Why don't you trust the British public to protect the underdog? :confused:

Because the British public tends to be confused sometimes as to who the underdog actually is. I noticed when they were voting that Jo and Danielle used the same reasons as Cleo - and almost the same wording, about Dirk's eviction.Shock, horror, he got annoyed when Cleo pawed all over him. If 50% of the housemates agree on this [adding in Jack] you can be sure that there are other members of the public who'd go along with them.

Since she was evicted, I've noticed that the British public is trying really hard to reinvent Jade as the underdog - so I don't have a lot of faith in the people that participate in those phone-ins and programmes.
 
danny la rouge said:
It's a shame we won't have the pleasure of evicting Jo and Danielle, since Jade took the fall and it'd be nice to express our opinionss on those two.

Will there be a crowd for Jo's eviction? Anyone who was planning to go to Jade's planning to go for Jo's ousting instead?


She will get a big booing I think.

Where you been - I've missed your analysis?
 
newbie said:
You've identified abusive behaviour, you can vote the perps out if you feel strongly. Indeed you can highlight it on threads like this and try to influence other people to vote. or maybe to complain to OFCOM or C4.

Why don't you trust the British public to protect the underdog? :confused:
Are you sure about that? You can only vote out those that the people in the house nominate for eviction. How do I vote out someone who I despise who does not reach the top two votes from the housemates :confused:

You can complain to OFCOM/C4, but I doubt it does much good as to what goes on in the current show.
 
So, given the amount of time dedicated to her in yesterday's edit it's hardly a shock that Jo is up for eviction. She'll be first out on friday bar a walk-out/panic attack. The vote is negative - while most folk believe the 2nd eviction on friday will be a toss-up between Dirk and Cleo (Cleo, surely?), the eviction format has caused Shilpa's "To Win BB" odds to drift out from 1.3 to 1.60. Strange things can happen in these multiple evictions and Shilpa's a big target. She should be ok, but you never know.

4th eviction *ODDSFLASH!*

Pat Butcher: 1.1
The Face: 17.0
Cleo: 40.0
The blessed Shilpa: 60.0
Ian "I'm not going to get involved" Watkins: 110.0

All fair enough, but I'd suggest that Jo's odds are too tight due to the possiblity of a walk-out/panic attack/lung cancer. If this occurs I can't see Dirk "fucking" Benedict losing out to sad, tarnished Cleo, the only remaining member of the coven, so 40.0 on her looks a nice price if Jo can't take the heat. A longshot obviously...

Good to see Jack booking his place in the final 6. :D :cool: :rolleyes:
 
Orangesanlemons said:
So, given the amount of time dedicated to her in yesterday's edit it's hardly a shock that Jo is up for eviction. She'll be first out on friday bar a walk-out/panic attack. The vote is negative - while most folk believe the 2nd eviction on friday will be a toss-up between Dirk and Cleo (Cleo, surely?), the eviction format has caused Shilpa's "To Win BB" odds to drift out from 1.3 to 1.60. Strange things can happen in these multiple evictions and Shilpa's a big target. She should be ok, but you never know.

4th eviction *ODDSFLASH!*

Pat Butcher: 1.1
The Face: 17.0
Cleo: 40.0
The blessed Shilpa: 60.0
Ian "I'm not going to get involved" Watkins: 110.0

All fair enough, but I'd suggest that Jo's odds are too tight due to the possiblity of a walk-out/panic attack/lung cancer. If this occurs I can't see Dirk "fucking" Benedict losing out to sad, tarnished Cleo, the only remaining member of the coven, so 40.0 on her looks a nice price if Jo can't take the heat. A longshot obviously...

Good to see Jack booking his place in the final 6. :D :cool: :rolleyes:

The odds on cleo are fantastic! Would you get 40-1 on cleo being the fifth evictee at the moment?

Laying off against 4th evictee a bit, in case Jo walks naturally.
 
exosculate said:
The odds on cleo are fantastic! Would you get 40-1 on cleo being the fifth evictee at the moment?

Hell no! :D

There's no 5th eviction market up at the moment but I'd price Cleo up at evens tops for that one. Jo's a gonner if she stays - the 40/1 on Cleo reflects a) the chance that Jo walks and b) if she does, the Dirk "grumpy old man" factor playing badly with ver kids.

A longshot, and Jo's support group is all still present and correct...
 
Orangesanlemons said:
Hell no! :D

There's no 5th eviction market up at the moment but I'd price Cleo up at evens tops for that one. Jo's a gonner if she stays - the 40/1 on Cleo reflects a) the chance that Jo walks and b) if she does, the Dirk "grumpy old man" factor playing badly with ver kids.

A longshot, and Jo's support group is all still present and correct...

Phew. I thought it would not be so. Looked exciting for a minute. Surely better than evens though with dirk in the betting?
 
exosculate said:
Phew. I thought it would not be so. Looked exciting for a minute. Surely better than evens though with dirk in the betting?

On Betfair probably, yes. I'd take the Face anytime over a middle-aged woman who's shown her dark, vindictive side in the last week, hence my ungenerous odds. Actually, thinking about it I'd make her a 1.7 shot.

Btw a lot of folks are putting JJ forward as a "favoured" winner for Endemol now - they sidestep the racism debate and also avoid the accusations of a 'fix' if Shilpa wins. Personally I don't think they really care - the public decide once we reach the final six, but it should be interesting watching the edits given to both HMs. :cool:
 
ZAMB said:
Because the British public tends to be confused sometimes as to who the underdog actually is.
You mean they might not agree with you. :D :p :cool:

not that that matters.


If it's so clear that "Dirk is gonna get hurt" then the coven will be voted against.

OTOH if the alternative view prevails he might go (that view being that he, like Shilpa, is game-playing and pushing the girls buttons in order to get victim/underdog sympathy).

Either way the problem you've identified, that they might "push him to a psychotic break", is averted.


That process seems to me to have worked reliably enough over many series.
 
Maltin said:
Are you sure about that? You can only vote out those that the people in the house nominate for eviction.

How do I vote out someone who I despise who does not reach the top two votes from the housemates :confused:

that's how it works, yes. If no-one in the house is identifying the bully/victim situation you see so clearly, and neither side of it gets nominated, you can't do anything. But if that's the case, maybe it's not as major as you think it is.

The simple fact that the housemates or the public might not agree with your analysis and your concerns does not necessarily make them all wrong.
 
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