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Carpetright, 2 Tulse Hill, to become a Sainsburys.

As for the Sainsburys on the Carpetright/Topps Tiles place, we don't need it. It'll further hurt other local shops. Sainsbury's say they will 'create jobs' but they will only steal them from elsewhere - research shows that new supermarkets eventually result in an overall loss of local employment (can't remember exact figures) once other local shops, which tend to employ more people in relation to their turnover, have closed down due to loss of business. So more money leaves the local area and flows into the pockets of the Sainsbury shareholders (the Qatari royal family and the likes..)
For the record there are already about 9 empty shops on that stretch of road.

In a year or two people are going to say that Sainsburys ruined the north end of Tulse Hill, and I'm going to refer them to this post.
 
For the record there are already about 9 empty shops on that stretch of road.
Yep, and most of them have been empty for ages - 10 years and more. There was an internet cafe I used a few times, but I think that's gone now. That Stardust kids shop in the new bit across the road didn't last long - or it might have moved elsewhere.
 
Yep, and most of them have been empty for ages - 10 years and more. There was an internet cafe I used a few times, but I think that's gone now. That Stardust kids shop in the new bit across the road didn't last long - or it might have moved elsewhere.

It's sad. Hard to resist the idea that these units should become homes.
 
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Probably true. Still, local shops could make a little more effort than this!

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I think if you run one of those types of shops you have to 'diversify' a bit and try to offer something a little bit different if you're gonna stay in business when the supermarkets move in. The Camberwell Dairy (little happy shopper-type place on Camberwell New Road) sells lots of wholefood/health food stuff and some interesting spices and caribbean foods. The Mace on Rosendale Road has a great fruit, veg & herbs selection and good bread. Nisa on Brixton Hill obviously has the Post Office inside it. Lots of shops offer services (lottery, electricity key, paypoint/bills, stamps etc) which don't reap them any money at all, but do get people in the immediate area into the shop, especially more elderly people. In fact, it's amazing how many of those little shops survive, many of them just selling stuff like fags and beer which have a fairly low profit margin.
 
Nisa has a pretty good selection of groceries and other foods.
yeah it's not a bad shop - i get that decent Union coffee from there (when it's on special offer!) It's kind of like a modernised London corner shop. I think some people like that cos it looks a bit more like a supermarket, well laid out and prices clearly marked. There's a brand new costcutter near me which is like that too.
 
yeah it's not a bad shop - i get that decent Union coffee from there (when it's on special offer!) It's kind of like a modernised London corner shop. I think some people like that cos it looks a bit more like a supermarket, well laid out and prices clearly marked. There's a brand new costcutter near me which is like that too.

It is a decent store - and I need some of that coffee.

But I can never forgive the storeroom frontage.

I noticed the other day that that strip was once called 'The Pavement' and pictures reveal it to have been very smart.
 
no. the crossroads has just two, rather than four, pedestrian crossing points, on the south and east sides.

there is no safe way, at that junction, for people from the st matthews area to get across to the park, or up to the school

it is a problem. and will get worse with sainsbury there

I agree. It is a nightmare that junction both for the reasons you state and also because on the east-side, although there is a crossing, on the way back from Brixton, one first has to negotiate the crossing of Morval Road where traffic turns (often aggressively from both North and South) to drive through the 1-way system joining Brixton Water Lane. Then there is crossing Brixton Water Lane itself where many cars mistakenly attempt to turn left (whilst travelling south). Crossing on the west side would be easier if there were crossings there. I remember v. well after having my first baby having a bit of a hormonal panic crossing there. It's not pleasant.
 
I have been driving up Brixton Water Lane before, from Dulwich Rd, and encountered a car coming in the wrong direction!
 
Will it have a carpark? Is there enough space for that? Can't see the point of another express/local branch, but the neatest non tesco, full-sized supermarket is east dulwich, I think. So direct competition with tesco acre lane would be good.

Do you only shop in large, tidy, well-organised supermarkets? ;)
 
The elderly and disabled, plus single parents with no choice but to bring their small children shopping, all find using a car for grocery shopping.

As you rightly pulled me up on my language yesterday, I feel obliged to inform you ( :p ) that "the elderly" and "the disabled" are labels that the respective parties referred to thoroughly dislike. Both reduce the people they're aimed at to ciphers for their "condition", i.e. age in the former, and physical and/or mental impairment(s) in the latter.

This has been a public service announcement!
 
The minority of people who find themselves in such circumstances and really can't travel the extra 0.5 miles to a perfectly servicable supermarket could surely avail themselves of the home delivery service offered by most major outlets. I really see little justification for turning every available plot of land into yet another depressingly predictable supertescoburys.

The home delivery services that are desirous of you paying a delivery charge if your order doesn't meet the minimum spend required?
 
hmm that is a good point well made. i still maintain that sticking a supermarket on every available patch of god's green earth just so that people who might struggle to get about as much as the rest of us is a pretty specious argument.
 
hmm that is a good point well made. i still maintain that sticking a supermarket on every available patch of god's green earth just so that people who might struggle to get about as much as the rest of us is a pretty specious argument.

Not to those of us who are people with disabilities, it isn't.
Not that I support the ever-increasing flood of mini-marts on every street corner (an exaggeration, but it sometimes feels like that), but I do wish that supermarkets paid as much attention to siting as local planners used to make them pay, i.e. making sure they were either on established transport routes, or that transport routes were established to feed the development. Sure, it's great to have large supermarkets, but they're a fucker if you don't drive and they're not dead on a transport route. And guess what? That's why Tesco et al put their "Express" and "Metro" shops where they do -because they know that the demographic in that area will have limited access to those large supermarkets, making it easier to make their mini-marts the only convenient game in town to people who are both money and time-poor.
 
Nisa has a pretty good selection of groceries and other foods.

For an Indy it's good, but still a fail for me. When I'm making the effort to cook I want to buy fresh meat, and when I'm lazy I want half-decent convenience meals. So that sends me to Sainsbury's. And before they appeared, M&S. (I always buy booze at the indies.

Not sure I personally want *another* Sainsbury's, but the lack of stuff in the independents certainly means they've got a market.

Now if only the independents specialised. A butcher, a greengrocer etc. Rather than all of them trying to sell everything and collectively failing*

(* High Spirits is a notable exception. They have, IMHO, a better range of booze than Sainsbury's. And it's a nice shop, with very nice staff, and fuck loads cheaper to boot. All win.)
 
For an Indy it's good, but still a fail for me. When I'm making the effort to cook I want to buy fresh meat, and when I'm lazy I want half-decent convenience meals. So that sends me to Sainsbury's. And before they appeared, M&S. (I always buy booze at the indies.

Not sure I personally want *another* Sainsbury's, but the lack of stuff in the independents certainly means they've got a market.

Now if only the independents specialised. A butcher, a greengrocer etc. Rather than all of them trying to sell everything and collectively failing*

(* High Spirits is a notable exception. They have, IMHO, a better range of booze than Sainsbury's. And it's a nice shop, with very nice staff, and fuck loads cheaper to boot. All win.)

I love High Spirits. They make a big effort. Store looks smart, inside and out. Great staff.
 
As you rightly pulled me up on my language yesterday, I feel obliged to inform you ( :p ) that "the elderly" and "the disabled" are labels that the respective parties referred to thoroughly dislike. Both reduce the people they're aimed at to ciphers for their "condition", i.e. age in the former, and physical and/or mental impairment(s) in the latter.

This has been a public service announcement!
oh, ok. that hasn't filtered through to the normally pc language of teaching yet. what are the preferred terms?
 
My theory is that the reason the Tesco garage is always a mess is that they make a lot of money in a very small space -it is in easy walking distance of plenty of houses with not much competition. I do buy milk and bread there, but there is never anything really nice to eat and I hate all the queuing. I think the staff are generally good and I have a small crush on the big sharply dressed guy who looks like a bouncer and calls me madam.

To be honest, I'm selfishly quite favourably disposed to a Sainsburys on Tulse Hill. Wish we were gentrified enough for Waitrose though....
 
oh, ok. that hasn't filtered through to the normally pc language of teaching yet. what are the preferred terms?

Kind of depends on your perspective (and politics), but I personally tend to favour people with disabilities/disabled people and senior citizens/elderly people. Basically any label that doesn't residualise the labelee as part of some homogeneous mass of "the (insert label)" but rather, recognises that they're actually a heterogeneous group of people.

TBF, it's not something I'd have expected to be at the forefront of awareness for teachers, as other professions aren't that well-informed either.
 
<snip>I do buy milk and bread there, but there is never anything really nice to eat and I hate all the queuing. I think the staff are generally good and I have a small crush on the big sharply dressed guy who looks like a bouncer and calls me madam.

To be honest, I'm selfishly quite favourably disposed to a Sainsburys on Tulse Hill. Wish we were gentrified enough for Waitrose though....
The ones at this end of Upper Tulse Hill, plus the shops at the bottom of Trinity Rise, and the ones on Elm Park are all preferred to that branch of Tesco. And it's only a couple of bus stops from either the shops near Water Lane or the Tulse Hill CoOp etc.
 
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