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Cardiff City 2008-09

You serious? Our pitch is brill. Yours is the one letting Adam Jones trot about in every other week.

Our pitch was once voted as the best playing surface outside of the premiership. The groundsmen we have go overboard on it.

I'm so not looking to next year and that hybrid stuff we'll have have to share with the egg chasing divet machines.
 
You serious? Our pitch is brill. Yours is the one letting Adam Jones trot about in every other week.

I admit there was a virgin patch of pristine grass where your midfielders stand due to your teams insistence on keeping the ball at least 6 feet above it.

We've got an almost perfect playing surface at White Rock, which may or may not be due to Adam Jones rolling around on it. I take it your not looking forward to Gethin Jenkins rolling around in the muck at your new ground?
 
I thought that apart from the opening 20 min, when we were on the ropes, Cardiff were far superior. How we didn't score in the first half is a mystery and we had plenty of opportunities in the 2nd half.

Watched this game in the same (Swansea) pub as a load of hardcore Jacks in a nasty pub in Wine Street ( :( :eek: ) -- well at least it had a big screen and opened at 11!

I agree with thie above assessment really, Swansea were all over Cardiff to start, but after that, especially in a lot of the second half, Cardiff were better and probably unlucky not to go ahead. Then in the last 10, Swansea seemed to recover their skill and passing and will to attack.

The Allen goal came out of nowhere and the Jacks didn't deserve it

Why not, that goal was top individual skill :confused: -- Allen is one of Swansea's most promising young players and proved why Martinez rates him. Against the run of play by that time, for sure (although as I said above Swansea had improved again towards the end anyway), but them's the breaks sometimes!

, so I was especially delighted to see the softest penalty award for many a year given our way.

I'm glad some of you Bluebirds agree that it was a soft penalty. I'd say to rate it 50-50 is being generous to Cardiff really. And I watched the replay several times, but maybe I was, erm, being 'influenced' by fellow drinkers around me .... ;)

Williams, who I didn't much rate, raised his arm all right but I have my doubts (??) that it was a deliberate foul, he seemed to me to be genuinely going for the ball too ...

Swansea out of the playoffs now for sure, but Cardiff are still in them and have at least one game in hand over the others no?
 
No shit.

He is quoted as saying that he felt he played well.

Seriously if he was playing for Cardiff and thought that performance was playing well I'd be seriously worried.
The rest of your squad played well. I will admit that. He didn't by any stretch of the imagination.

Yeah I'd agree with that, Tate was a weak link to me. Williams too!

The rest of the Jacks were pretty good at times.
 
Williams, who I didn't much rate, raised his arm all right but I have my doubts (??) that it was a deliberate foul, he seemed to me to be genuinely going for the ball too ...

By trying to jump through (not over) the back of a player with his elbow raised? Remind me never to play you.
 
I admit there was a virgin patch of pristine grass where your midfielders stand due to your teams insistence on keeping the ball at least 6 feet above it.
:D We play decent enough football.

We've got an almost perfect playing surface at White Rock, which may or may not be due to Adam Jones rolling around on it. I take it your not looking forward to Gethin Jenkins rolling around in the muck at your new ground?

Not really mate, I know we have to move but Ninian Park is just so good and proper.
 
By trying to jump through (not over) the back of a player with his elbow raised? Remind me never to play you.

That's why I'm a spectator not a player or commentator! ;) :D

One thing I would agree, Williams was generally a poor defender, a weak link.

I'm probably being more objective about the match and that penalty than anyone else in Swansea today. So take what you can get on top of the penalty! :p
 
No shit.

He is quoted as saying that he felt he played well.

Seriously if he was playing for Cardiff and thought that performance was playing well I'd be seriously worried.
The rest of your squad played well. I will admit that. He didn't by any stretch of the imagination.

While he was nowhere near the best player on the pitch he didn't have a particularly bad game. Apart from getting skinned by McNaughton(?) for the Chopra goal he was fairly solid in defence and attack, which is all you can ask of your 4th choice centre back when he's playing left back.
 
By trying to jump through (not over) the back of a player with his elbow raised? Remind me never to play you.

Come on, not even the most one eyed fan can seriously that was a penalty yesterday. It was a nothing challenge, your man has made a meal of it and the ref bottled it. Any where else on the pitch and at any other time in the match the ref wouldn't have put the whistle near his lips.
 
Come on, not even the most one eyed fan can seriously that was a penalty yesterday. It was a nothing challenge, your man has made a meal of it and the ref bottled it. Any where else on the pitch and at any other time in the match the ref wouldn't have put the whistle near his lips.

I don't know why but I just thought there had to be an equaliser yesterday, fate n'all. I just couldn't see you lot winning.
 
1-0 to us this season though. :D

If losing to the Jacks overall is the price i have to pay to get promotion I'll take promotion.

I know some people have said that they'd rather beat Swansea than get promotion but thats just madness in my eyes. I'd rather be waving to the Jacks for the league above.

Hell I don't even Swansea coming up to the prem after us. I just want to get there first.
 
Come on, not even the most one eyed fan can seriously that was a penalty yesterday. It was a nothing challenge, your man has made a meal of it and the ref bottled it. Any where else on the pitch and at any other time in the match the ref wouldn't have put the whistle near his lips.

I agree, but you have to see these things in the context of the whole game. Refs don't always make decisions based on the individual incident in question. If they think they've made a dubious decision one way, they'll often put it right next time there's a doubtful decision to be made.
 
Hell I don't even mind Swansea coming up to the prem after us. I just want to get there first.

Swansea only just came up from League One last year, and even with all those draws, they have exceeded expectations, even those of (realistic!) Jacks fans. I reckon they need one more season consolidating before going for the playoffs.

Martinez is a pretty good manager with an eye for playing talent and skill, and who encourages good passing football. Most of the time you get that with Swansea. But he needs to strengthen his squad further, so another season needed.
 
slightly surprised that the ref getting a coin in the bonce seems to hardly elicit a mention here. he was very controlled and in charge and i thought that was a bit tight to be chucking coinage at him tbf, fair result all told altho i thought the swans maybe shaded it tbh, you lot were a bit lucky, ah well :)

Something need sto be done about this problem,and don't think its just a Cardiff disease.

To be fair to the real supporters around this idiot, they pointed him out to officials and hopefully he will get his comeuppance.

The club did all they could yesterday. The heaviest police presence I have seen for a very long time. There was trouble after the game, but I know people who were outside shortly before the final whistle and they said that a lot of youths came in from canton looking for trouble. these were not people who had been to the game, what are the club expected to do about this? Its not a football problem necessarily, but a social problem which latches onto football.

Does it need an initiative from the FA, the clubs, the football trusts or is it time for real fans to stand up and be counted and say they are not prepared to let the idiots ruin for the rest of us. If Cardiff lose points for this the best season we have had in years could count for nothing.

Here's my, very poor, effort.
 

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I saw Eddie score. I saw Eddie score...... at both ends :D City were actual quite poor for a lot of this match but took their goals very nicely. Important 3 points tonight. Well done boys.
 
getting a bit emotional now, only two games left at ninian park, boy am i going to miss nights on the grange end like tonight.

then of course there is the possibility there might be another game that i dare not mention... but the thought of it really being possible aint half adding to the tension.
 
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