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Cardiff City 2008-09

Implosion-tastic.

I have just witnessed a brilliant performance by 9 absolute bloody heroes.

After 20 minutes I very nearly turned to the guy next to me and said, there's nothing in this team, they're worse than watford, we should win by a mile. I bit my lip tho as I thought I may be tempting fte.

What I witnessed after that was without doubt the most inept, no it was worse than that, the most one-sided refereeing performance I have ever seen.

I may be proved wrong in this, but having spoken to people closer than I was who confirmed it, the penalty and sending off was a travesty. The referee awarded both from very nearly half way, did not confer with his linesman who kept his flag to his chest. The McCormack sending off I cant argue with as he did thrw an elbow, but he isn't a dirty player so I have to question why he did it, and the player certainly made the most of it.

After that challenges were made on our guys which I thought were certain cards, we didnt even get free kicks. The challnge on Super Kev, who was oustanding, was worthy of atleast a yellow card, and the ref retsrted play with a drop ball!!!

Sheff Utd at full strength against a cardiff team shorn of two was an even match, but it is obviosuly very hard to score against a team 2 men stronger. I take my hat offf to all 9 and was proud of them today.

Bearing in mind that Mc got yellow carded for celebrating with his own fans on wednesday the celebrations of the 2nd and 3rd Scummer goals should receive some attention from the league. Considering the circumstances of the game to go to the away fans and kiss the badge etc was imho tantamount to incitement to riot.

Towards the end of theseason when we lost to Stoke in the play offs I started to believe there was a conspiray to keep mus down, those thoughts were reinforced with the decisions in the second leg, referess I thought had bee told they didnt want us in the Championship. We have not had many decisions at all from refs since xmas,a nd I was starting to think it was happening again, in the bar at half time there was a lot of talk about this very thing, and on this performance from the ref I can believe it. This game leaves a very bitter taste in the mouth.

Roll on the play offs, I actually look forward to them now. If we finish 4th, sheff U are likley to be fifth and if not those positions will be reversed. What a semi that will be. Over 2 legs we cant lose to the pile of shot that was on the field today and revenge will be oh so sweet.
 
The referee awarded both from very nearly half way, did not confer with his linesman who kept his flag to his chest.

eh? if the linesman has his flag to his chest it means he's indicating to the referee that a penalty should be awarded. So if the referee saw an offence and the linesman had his flag to his chest then the ref wouldn't need to confer with him as he can already see that the linesman agrees with his decision.
 
What is worse is that with Friedel's sending off Villa may well recall Taylor!:(

I guess its pssible with a tw week break we may have a keeperback from injury by then, and I dont count the Greek hack as a keeper!!:D
 
I'm proud of the boys. Battled to the last under very difficult circumstances.
Proud of those who cheered their team till the bitter end.

Not too impressed with the hordes who left early. How often have we mocked fans at away matches for leaving early when we were stuffing them? Today we lost the right to do so and it also showed no respect to the 9 guys left on the pitch who as 1927 said showed themselves to be heroes.
 
Kevin Blackwell said:
"It was a good game although there were strange decisions.
"I am always happy when I come away from home and win.

"You have to accept these decisions and just get on with it but I thought both red cards looked harsh to me.

"When you are one on one in the box you are always likely to see a red card but McCormack was right in front of me when he was sent off and I honestly don't know why he was dismissed.

Well atleast know where the £25 million from the Tevez affair went! Friggin refs
 
Took my 11 year old daughter to her first game today. After about 20 minutes she complained that all the action was going on at the other end of the pitch (we were in the grange end). Sheffield just were not in the game.

And then.....

I hate blaming referees for a result, it smacks of sore looserism, but feck me what a lemon that guy was. My daughter proclaimed, "If he lived in Crapsville he would easily be elected mayor. In fact they would probaly make him king!" :mad:

Even the Canton Stand made themselves heard with a chant of "You're, not fit to referee!"... yes thats right, THE CANTON STAND! :cool:

Crap refereeing is one thing, so long as it is consitent, but even my daughter spotted that he was totally biased. They kicked lumps out of us and got away with it. :rolleyes:

Fair play though, 3 nill down and the crowd were still 110% behind the team, i have been to away grounds where we have lost and the home fans still did not make as much noise as we did today after loosing three nil. Made me proud. :D

And yes... she wants me to take her again. :hmm:
 
If both red cards are overturned (not unfeasible with the Welsh FA)

could we get a rematch?

and if not, why not?

I thought this too. At the end of the day we had to play the game with 9men, if the cards are overturned the result stands. As Sheff Utd are so hot on fair play, what with Tevez and everything, I'm sure they will unilaterally offer us a replay anyway!:D

That ref has form by the way, google his name and it isnt the first time he has been embroiled in controversy, he is also top of the statistics for cards. Bear in mind we were, and still are, top of the fair play league by a country mile. Funny how we suddnely pick up 2 reds and a couple of yellows in one game! The guy was meant to have retired last season, just our luck he stayed on, he's over 50 no wonder he gave the penalty from half way he couldnt keep up!!
 
Daniel Koler, Sparta Prague striker, playing trial match with Bluebirds tomorrow night at Merthyr!!
 
Zsa Zsa one match ban

Ross cleared

Best we could have imagined.

Tho a rematch would be nice.

See the Yorkshire pricks in the play offs then.
 
Henderson miscontrols and waits for contact. Gypes takes ball. No nailed on by any means.

McCormack a travesty

Thats how I read it.

I watched the video frame by frame and Henderson loses control of ball and then checks his stride for gabor had to run into the back of him, it was like one of those insurance scams where the gut in front hits brakes hard at a roundabout to cause a rear ender! Maybe we should have asked for someone from Norwich Union on the disciplianry panel!!
 
Thats how I read it.

I watched the video frame by frame and Henderson loses control of ball and then checks his stride for gabor had to run into the back of him, it was like one of those insurance scams where the gut in front hits brakes hard at a roundabout to cause a rear ender! Maybe we should have asked for someone from Norwich Union on the disciplianry panel!!

strangely, the referee (and me) didn't get to watch it frame by frame.

Suck it up, shit happens really
 
strangely, the referee (and me) didn't get to watch it frame by frame.

Suck it up, shit happens really

No the ref got to watch it from the half way line where he couldn't have seen shit and should have consulted the linesman who was right there.
 
strangely, the referee (and me) didn't get to watch it frame by frame.

Suck it up, shit happens really

Thats as may be, but two in one game both dodgy when you are playing promotion rivals!!

If it w3anst a penalty then the ref shouldnt have been so sure, especially as he wa son half way, and he compounded the issue by sending him off as well. I think all Cardiff fans would live with the penalty, thats fair enough, its 2 absurd sendings off we can't handle, we were cheated out of a win, end of. withh 11 on 11 it would have been a Cardiff rout, we pretty much held our own with 9!
 
Thats as may be, but two in one game both dodgy when you are playing promotion rivals!!

If it w3anst a penalty then the ref shouldnt have been so sure, especially as he wa son half way, and he compounded the issue by sending him off as well. I think all Cardiff fans would live with the penalty, thats fair enough, its 2 absurd sendings off we can't handle, we were cheated out of a win, end of. withh 11 on 11 it would have been a Cardiff rout, we pretty much held our own with 9!

Two highly dubious sendings off at QPR an all which subsequently lost us the game in the dying moments despite playing them off the park for most of the match. Add onto that the late goals at Reading and Birmingham and the like and we'd be in that second spot right about now. It's fucking infuriating but c'est la vie. Lets just hope we secure this play-off spot and get some sweet revenge on the South Yorkshire scum in the semis, followed by our annual trip down Wembley Way.
 
Suck it up, shit happens really

Two deserved sendings off in one game could be classed as shit happening, that aint the case here though. This ref was a complete disaster and turned what could have been one of the most exciting games of the season into a joke. He was nothing short of a disgrace. :hmm:
 
Thats as may be, but two in one game both dodgy when you are playing promotion rivals!!

If it w3anst a penalty then the ref shouldnt have been so sure, especially as he wa son half way, and he compounded the issue by sending him off as well. I think all Cardiff fans would live with the penalty, thats fair enough, its 2 absurd sendings off we can't handle, we were cheated out of a win, end of. withh 11 on 11 it would have been a Cardiff rout, we pretty much held our own with 9!

well, you know, sorry. Everyone else has had to deal with it as well you know.

The ref gave a penalty so had no option but to send him off, that was the letter of the law. Earlier in the thread you said the lineman had his flag to his chest - that means he's given a penalty. If this is what happens, why would the ref need to consult him? The linesman has clearly indicated his view already.

Makes no odds to me, just seems like the usual nonsensical bollocks that loads of fans come out with when they've had some bad luck
 
Makes no odds to me, just seems like the usual nonsensical bollocks that loads of fans come out with when they've had some bad luck

If it make no odds why are you here gloating.

When we fuck up we have to deal with it, but we did not fuck up. This was not a case of bad luck, as you put it, we were done by the worst 90 minutes of refereeing I have ever seen. This not nonsensical bollocks, it is a fact, as will be agreed by anyone that watched the game, including the Sheffiled manager. However, dodgy refs is also something we have to deal with and move on, it is done now and there is nothing we can do about it. I just hope no-one else has to put up with this muppet, he is overdue for retirment, he should go now.

Most important thing is we have had McCormack's red card overturned and he will be available to get stuck into the Jacks next game. Can't wait.
 
Haven't seen any of the action from the Cardiff - United match but I will say that the standard of refereeing in this division has been absolutely appalling this season. It's weird tho cos since the Hull match where the referee said the ball went over the line and we should have had a penalty (as seen on replays) we've actually had a lot of "luck" from the referee the matches following so I guess it's swings and roundabouts. Anyway, no need to hate Yorkshire just cos you hate the ref!!
 
Haven't seen any of the action from the Cardiff - United match but I will say that the standard of refereeing in this division has been absolutely appalling this season. It's weird tho cos since the Hull match where the referee said the ball went over the line and we should have had a penalty (as seen on replays) we've actually had a lot of "luck" from the referee the matches following so I guess it's swings and roundabouts. Anyway, no need to hate Yorkshire just cos you hate the ref!!

I wondered when you would put in an appearance in this thread, but didnt expect the conciliatory and well balance comment that you just posted!:D

To be fair tho, I think any antagonism exhibited on this thread toward Sheff Utd is as a result of the behaviour of your players in their celebrations, which in any circumstances was uncalled for, in the specific circumstances was bang out of order!
 
It is official, watching city loose three nil standing behind the goal at ninian park with nine men on the pitch and a dodgy referee, is better than watching wales loose two nil sitting in the millenium stadium.... this is from the mouth of my 11 year old.
 
I wondered when you would put in an appearance in this thread, but didnt expect the conciliatory and well balance comment that you just posted!:D
Eh?! When have you ever known me to be any different?!

To be fair tho, I think any antagonism exhibited on this thread toward Sheff Utd is as a result of the behaviour of your players in their celebrations, which in any circumstances was uncalled for, in the specific circumstances was bang out of order!
I've read on some Cardiff forums that Stephen Quinn took the piss out of disabled fans which I find hard to believe (altho I can't see the point in goading the fans if he'd not been getting any stick), altho I am aware that Paddy Kenny was a bit of an idiot goading the fans behind him when we scored one of our goals, but well, he is Paddy Kenny and no doubt had been having "banter" all match? I think Cotterill was getting stick for being born in Cardiff and having the cheek to not only not play for Cardiff but also to not support them as well, so if he did anything I can kind of see where he was coming from!
 
all quiet here..... and with the home game we have all been waiting for around the corner as well!
 

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we fogot YOU were there..... good to see Scimica staying, forgot what it is like to see him play though. Hope he is able to get a game soon.
 
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