Bussard's fusion work - the "Polywell" looks VERY promising
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ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Bob_the_lost said:Niven has it too with the Puppeteer worlds i think.
Still, that'd be a problem for the future, i'm just nitpicking.
No need to worry about all that heat, bob.
remember that according to bigfish it gets absorbed by space!
Bob_the_lost
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Thank fuck for the Ether, otherwise we'd be screwedViolentPanda said:No need to worry about all that heat, bob.
remember that according to bigfish it gets absorbed by space!
Crispy
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The experiments are being done right now!
http://www.emc2fusion.org/
Here's a plasma running inside WB7, a reconstruction of Bussards last experiment (but better made, so it won't short out like his did)
The experiments are being done by Richard Nebel, a well repsected plasma physicist. He posts on the Talk-Polywell forums and gives regular updates on progress. The funding is minimal and is from the US Navy, but all results will be published in public. If they confirm Bussard's theories, then someone can have a go at making a break-even device. For a heck of a lot less than ITER, that's for sure.
http://www.talk-polywell.org/bb/index.php
http://www.emc2fusion.org/
Here's a plasma running inside WB7, a reconstruction of Bussards last experiment (but better made, so it won't short out like his did)
The experiments are being done by Richard Nebel, a well repsected plasma physicist. He posts on the Talk-Polywell forums and gives regular updates on progress. The funding is minimal and is from the US Navy, but all results will be published in public. If they confirm Bussard's theories, then someone can have a go at making a break-even device. For a heck of a lot less than ITER, that's for sure.
http://www.talk-polywell.org/bb/index.php
The experiments are being done right now!
http://www.emc2fusion.org/
Here's a plasma running inside WB7, a reconstruction of Bussards last experiment (but better made, so it won't short out like his did)
The experiments are being done by Richard Nebel, a well repsected plasma physicist. He posts on the Talk-Polywell forums and gives regular updates on progress. The funding is minimal and is from the US Navy, but all results will be published in public. If they confirm Bussard's theories, then someone can have a go at making a break-even device. For a heck of a lot less than ITER, that's for sure.
http://www.talk-polywell.org/bb/index.php
Wondered what was happening with this. Read last year they were planning to test the latest design.
*fingers crossed*
Crispy
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Roger Fox at dailykos has his ear to the ground on this, so check http://roger-fox.dailykos.com/ every month or so to see if there's any news. Seeing as they've got the high-power plasma running now, and are building/have built the instrumentation, I don't think we'll hear much news until the paper is published.
Ta.
It sounds such an elegant design. Not that I'm any kind of physisist or engineer though.
What's happening with the ITER thing. Have they started building it?
I'll Google.
e2a
Nothing much yet apparently. Still being built. They've signed an agreement to cooperate and share resources with CERN.
It sounds such an elegant design. Not that I'm any kind of physisist or engineer though.
What's happening with the ITER thing. Have they started building it?
I'll Google.
e2a
Nothing much yet apparently. Still being built. They've signed an agreement to cooperate and share resources with CERN.
fogbat
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The experiments are being done right now!
http://www.emc2fusion.org/
Here's a plasma running inside WB7, a reconstruction of Bussards last experiment (but better made, so it won't short out like his did)
The experiments are being done by Richard Nebel, a well repsected plasma physicist. He posts on the Talk-Polywell forums and gives regular updates on progress. The funding is minimal and is from the US Navy, but all results will be published in public. If they confirm Bussard's theories, then someone can have a go at making a break-even device. For a heck of a lot less than ITER, that's for sure.
http://www.talk-polywell.org/bb/index.php
Love that it looks like an old-timey sci-fi film's rendition of what a futuristic energy source would look like
Crispy
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I think that's the best thing about itLove that it looks like an old-timey sci-fi film's rendition of what a futuristic energy source would look like
Chrome torusses? Blue glow? So much
spacemonkey
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'Nobody doesn't like molten boron!'
Crispy
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Big bump I know, but:
http://iecfusiontech.blogspot.com/2010/03/wb-d.html
What they've done:
What they're doing:
What will come:
Can you say 100MW from an 8 meter cube and not get a stiffy? I can't.
The folks at talk.polywell have a FOIA request that should deliver goods tomorrow, giving us loads of detail on the machines they're currently working on. Things look brighter and brighter
http://iecfusiontech.blogspot.com/2010/03/wb-d.html
What they've done:
What they're doing:
What will come:
Can you say 100MW from an 8 meter cube and not get a stiffy? I can't.
The folks at talk.polywell have a FOIA request that should deliver goods tomorrow, giving us loads of detail on the machines they're currently working on. Things look brighter and brighter
Chester Copperpot
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So has the concept been proved? Have they demonstrated net gain or is that whet they're working on at the moment?
Crispy
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The (available) evidence is now much stronger. With WB-7 They've "validated and extended" the original WB-6 experiment, so we know that wasn't a fluke or measurement error. The work on WB-8, which is ongoing, seems to be going well. That design is larger and will test the scaling laws. Bussard's original philosophy was that you gain nothing by building an interim between those experimental machines and a prototype power plant, as it's an engineering problem by then. The problems will be the same for any significantly larger device, so you may as well go for broke.
note p-B11 has not been proven feasible just yet.
EastEnder
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If only....! I'll happily eat my own nuts if "Phase 3" comes to fruition within the projected timescale & budget. In fact, forget 4 years & $200mil, I'll do it if phase 3 is successfully completed within 40 years & $200 billion.
I'd be surprised if any legitimate organisation working in fusion research would make such hopelessly optimistic claims. It's fusion ffs, not an area renowned for the timely delivering of promises...
Never. Gonna. Happen.
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that's cos all previous fusion 'promises' have been based on the frankly insane tokamak design. that's what's given fusion a bad name and has spread the assumption that fusion requires insane temperature and pressure. all it really requires is fast-moving ions.
you can get ions to fuse on your desktop with a hirsch-farnsworth device. the poywell just removes that design's barrier to unity - the solid electric grid - and replaces it with a permeable electron cloud. accelerating +ve ions is easy with an electric field.
you can get ions to fuse on your desktop with a hirsch-farnsworth device. the poywell just removes that design's barrier to unity - the solid electric grid - and replaces it with a permeable electron cloud. accelerating +ve ions is easy with an electric field.
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Crispy
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naturally, but the environment inside a poywell reactor is so much more benign, and the scale required for >unity is so much smaller than the tokamak...
of course there's every chance this approach will fail, but I rate it much higher than ITER.
kyser_soze
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*nearly vomits with excitement before having a word and calming the fuck down*
Crispy
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no not yet, that will take a larger machine. the work they're doing now is to confirm just how much larger that machine needs to be. the theory is - not that much larger at all really.
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