Brixton Top Shop protest, 11am Sat 18th Dec

[butchersapron]

Looks like a lotta snowy fun was had all round, cheerio chappies..

meanwhile those on an hourly, agency wage get sent home. top job!

Yep, look how they've organised things. Where your figures? Post them up here right now.

Please, your scabby teara on behalf of agency workers, give it a rest.

 

[ernestolynch]

Can I just say nick h, Laughing Toad and ajdown are coming across as a right bunch of knobs.

They are TORY scum, it's in their nature.

 

[versiongirl]

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[gabi]

Yep, look how they've organised things. Where your figures? Post them up here right now.

Please, your scabby teara on behalf of agency workers, give it a rest.

Get a job you unemployable cunt, then post. Remember who's paying for your internet connection.

 

[twistedAM]

Get a job you unemployable cunt, then post. Remember who's paying for your internet connection.

Err, aren't you supposed to be on holiday somewhere nice?

 

[versiongirl]

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[ernestolynch]

Great posts by resident fascist 'gabi' and this new gimp girl.

 

[tarannau]

Chist, what's all this fake sympathy for Morleys management and employees? If Morleys has taken the choice to offer concessions to the likes of Top Shop then it's entirely reasonable to make a stand against both. It may help them reconsider the relationship in future years, which would be a sensible objective.

You can't go around insisting on some local exceptions for local businesses in some kind of weird sense of misplaced protectionism.

 

[Blagsta]

Get a job you unemployable cunt, then post. Remember who's paying for your internet connection.

unpleasant little man

 

[wurlycurly]

unpleasant little man

Indeed. Get a grip. There's some YouTube footage of the Brixton protest in the snow. Wish I'd been there, fucking huge respect to those who were.

 

[editor]

Looks like a lotta snowy fun was had all round, cheerio chappies..

meanwhile those on an hourly, agency wage get sent home. top job!

Who got sent home, exactly?

 

[Badgers]

A thread that only Urban can deliver

 

[nick h.]

you've posted up a link to a youtube video entitled 'Student Demo London - Top Shop windows getting smashed'.

While the motivation for targeting topshop windows may well have been inspired by the uk uncut protests drawing attention to their tax avoidance, it's got fuck all to do with the actual UK Uncut organised protests at which AFAIK no windows have previously been smashed, or stock trashed, so it's out of order to suggest as you do that this would be the likely result of todays protests.

to suggest that it doesn't matter who's organised a protest as to the form that protest is likely to take shows you have zero understanding of the history of protest movements in this country, never mind what's going on today.

Nonsense. Haven't you noticed that it's demo season? People are angry. Some believe they can bring down the government with a sustained campaign of disorder. They've noticed that violent demos keep an issue at the top of the news agenda and get Parliamentary attention. Ukuncut can't control what individual protesters do any more than the NUS can. If I were a Ukuncut organiser I'd be quietly delighted by the Oxford Circus protest. I'd want more of the same. Morleys Topshop makes an excellent target because the media love a riot in Brixton - the TV trucks would arrive in minutes. If Topshop would be the principal victim, fine, let's close it down and trash the place. But nobody knows whether Morleys would actually suffer a lot more. Nobody (Editor, in particular) seems concerned about possible unintended consequences. If I may say so that's just being thick. It shows a lack of imagination. I can't respect that. On the other hand I do respect Tarannau's point of view:

Chist, what's all this fake sympathy for Morleys management and employees? If Morleys has taken the choice to offer concessions to the likes of Top Shop then it's entirely reasonable to make a stand against both. It may help them reconsider the relationship in future years, which would be a sensible objective.

You can't go around insisting on some local exceptions for local businesses in some kind of weird sense of misplaced protectionism.

But I can't see much value in debating this issue unless somebody finds out what the business relationship is between Morleys and Topshop, and tries to estimate the real value to Morleys of the Topshop concession. The upper floors of Morleys are deathly quiet most of the time. It's my guess that the Topshop concession is subsidising a hell of a lot of unprofitable floorspace. So, to repeat myself for the nth time, if people want to protest responsibly they ought to do some homework. Until they do this thread is useless, so I'm going to just lurk. If you want to call me silly names and label me a Tory member of the ajdown fan club, go ahead. Actually I'd like to see all of Philip Green's windows put in. The ConDems are vulnerable on this issue and it could help get them swiftly replaced by Red Ed.

 

[tarannau]

Right, so you're going to insist on a detailed explanation of the business relationship of Morleys and Top Shop before you believe that anyone could add value to this discussion. But you're quite happy to fill the rest of your post with a load of ludicrous guesswork about the motivation of UKUncut and their attitude to rioting, the profitability of Morleys and the level of 'subsidy' from the Top Shop concession

And yet you insist that others 'ought to do some homework.' Bit of a flaming cheek, no?

 

[editor]

But nobody knows whether Morleys would actually suffer a lot more. Nobody (Editor, in particular) seems concerned about possible unintended consequences. If I may say so that's just being thick. It shows a lack of imagination. I can't respect that.

The stated aims of the protest were laid out in advance, and anyone who had the slightest clue about UKuncut's aims would know exactly what was in store - and that was a short, peaceful protest to make people aware of the blazing hypocrisy of Topshop's tax-avoiding boss. And that's exactly what happened.

These are the facts. All the idiotic bullshit about smashed windows, fights with cops, battles with security guards, fittings being trashed, shops closing down and staff becoming unemployed all live in your fevered anti-protester imagination.

Quite why you're so utterly desperate to put down peaceful protesters with such wild flights of fantasy, smears and unfounded associations with violent conduct is anyone's guess but it really doesn't reflect very well on you.