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Brixton Top Shop protest, 11am Sat 18th Dec

I'm guessing that nobody's realised that there isn't actually such a thing as a "Top Shop" in Brixton but it's merely part of the first floor at Morleys - meaning that an entire department store of entirely innocent and unconnected departments and retailers could well be disrupted rather than just the actual target?
Are you being wilfully thick here?

Why would they disrupt random stores when they whole point of the action is that it targets an individual shop?

Still, there's lots of other targets within Morleys, seeing as most of the stores there are owned by Green's tax-shirking Aracadia group.
 
Strangely enough, I don't generally spend a lot of time buying women's clothes in Brixton - or anywhere, for that matter. Is it therefore a surprise that I'm not 100% sure within Morleys where it is?
 
Top Shop has its own entrance onto the main road and is only connected to Morleys by virtue of an entrance leading through to connect it to Dorothy Perkins. So the main disruption would be to Top Shop and Dorothy Perkins - Jane Norman might suffer a little but their skinny malinky clothes are shit anyway.... :D
 
Top Shop has its own entrance onto the main road and is only connected to Morleys by virtue of an entrance leading through to connect it to Dorothy Perkins. So the main disruption would be to Top Shop and Dorothy Perkins - Jane Norman might suffer a little but their skinny malinky clothes are shit anyway.... :D
Dorothy Perkins is also owned by the tax-avoiding Green, so I won't be crying tears if that store gets disrupted too.

David Cameron's focus this week on tackling "welfare cheats" has underlined his priorities. The coalition is committed to an ideological programme of spending cuts worth £83bn by the end of this parliament – 60% more than planned by the Labour government. But, as the Guardian reported, there is just £1.5bn in benefit and tax credit fraud – the rest is due to system failure. Compare this with the £17bn on tax avoidance, evasion and non-payment identified in HMRC's Protecting Tax Revenues report and you get a sense of whether we're really "all in this together".

Tax avoidance is not a crime, but it is certainly a poor qualification for taking on a new role as head of an "external efficiency review". In 2006, using figures calculated by campaigning accountant Richard Murphy, the BBC's Money Programme reported that Philip Green and his family had saved themselves nearly £300m the previous year living partly in Monaco, where residents do not have to pay income tax.

Asked this morning on the Today programme, Green would only say "My wife's not a tax exile. My family do not live in the United Kingdom; it's somewhat different." He went on to claim, "We do pay all our tax in Britain. I think we have paid, over the last five years, some £300m-£400m in taxes on profits that have been made on our company." One would hope so. Operating profits on his Arcadia Group Limited firm were £266.2m in 2009, £275.3m in 2008, and £293.3m in 2007. Meanwhile, the Sunday Times Rich List puts Sir Philip and Lady Green in the top 10 with an estimated fortune of £4.1bn.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/aug/13/philip-green-eficiency-savings
 
As I hadn't planned on going into Morleys tomorrow anyway the protest won't affect me.

At least, I hope Philip Green doesn't own McDonalds...
 
I'll probably come along to this.

I really wish people were targeting Tesco though - they are one of the biggest tax dodgers and morally corrupt too.
 
The Brixton Top Shop is just a concession within Morleys. Is Morley's part of Green's empire? Or is it a long-standing independent Brixton business, trying to survive the recession? Are the staff in the Top Shop concession employed by Morleys, or by Green? I hope whoever's planning this demo has done their homework and doesn't end up doing more harm to Brixton than to Philip Green.
 
Is there anyone on this forum who pays more tax than they need to?

Proberbly not. But there is a world of difference between that and avoiding paying tax you are supposed to pay. Ultimately it is going to take government action to close these loopholes, but I think it is totally legitmate to highlight these dodgers and get this issue on the agenda.
 
Is there anyone on this forum who pays more tax than they need to?
My partner doesn't work and can't claim benefits. But I'm not allowed to have half my income paid to him in order to pay less income tax. But Philip Green is allowed to pretend that his wife owns the Arcadia group in order to do precisely that. These loopholes exist only for the rich, whilst the poor are being made to pay for their greed.

And that is what these protests are about. Money made in the UK must have tax paid in the UK. No exceptions.
 
My partner doesn't work and can't claim benefits. But I'm not allowed to have half my income paid to him in order to pay less income tax. But Philip Green is allowed to pretend that his wife owns the Arcadia group in order to do precisely that. These loopholes exist only for the rich, whilst the poor are being made to pay for their greed.

And that is what these protests are about. Money made in the UK must have tax paid in the UK. No exceptions.

This sums up the situation perfectly. I'm quite excited about these protests at Top Shop etc because thay have the potential to be a bit of a game-changer. They're peaceful, fully justified (IMO), easy to organise and may turn out to be very effective. There was much less press coverage of last week's initial salvo from media outlets such as Sky or the Daily Mail, for example. Doesn't take a genius to work out why.
 
This sums up the situation perfectly. I'm quite excited about these protests at Top Shop etc because thay have the potential to be a bit of a game-changer. They're peaceful, fully justified (IMO), easy to organise and may turn out to be very effective. There was much less press coverage of last week's initial salvo from media outlets such as Sky or the Daily Mail, for example. Doesn't take a genius to work out why.

Amazingly the Daily Mail seem sympathetic: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...shore-denying-UK-exchequer-100s-millions.html
 
This sums up the situation perfectly. I'm quite excited about these protests at Top Shop etc because thay have the potential to be a bit of a game-changer. They're peaceful, fully justified (IMO), easy to organise and may turn out to be very effective. There was much less press coverage of last week's initial salvo from media outlets such as Sky or the Daily Mail, for example. Doesn't take a genius to work out why.

Eh? Didn't you see the smashed windows at Oxford Circus on the news? If anything like that happens at Morleys it'll be grossly unfair.
 
nick h, that was not a UK Uncut demo - it was the escapees from the fees demo. Not that it could never happen. Let's hope all the department stores decide to deny them floorspace before it comes to that.

This sums up the situation perfectly. I'm quite excited about these protests at Top Shop etc because thay have the potential to be a bit of a game-changer. They're peaceful, fully justified (IMO), easy to organise and may turn out to be very effective. There was much less press coverage of last week's initial salvo from media outlets such as Sky or the Daily Mail, for example. Doesn't take a genius to work out why.

And what's more ...

…… at the time when the 2005 Arcadia dividend was paid by Sir Philip Green [the owner of Topshop], the Inland Revenue was conducting a campaign against small family businesses whose shareholders were just the husband and wife, and where most of the profits were paid in the form of a dividend to the wife rather than as a salary to the husband who was doing all the work. It was never established just how large the contribution of Tina Green was to the achievement of such profits.

In simple terms HMRC seems to have ignored that the very legislation they use against small businesses on a daily basis (IR35, income splitting, etc) has not been used against (Sir) Philip Green where the return on HMRC’s “investment” would be huge.

http://www.3caonline.com/?p=812FT
 
Topshop is a franchise in Morleys with many other businesses that will be affected by this action. Why dont you concentrate on Flagship stores and hit Peter Greens profits not local businesses which suport local projects such as the Brixton Pound.
 
Lol. Butchers dear. If you ever come to Brixton, I'd love to show u where 'topshop' is situated. as much as I loathe phil green this will hurt other people far more.
 
Lol. Butchers dear. If you ever come to Brixton, I'd love to show u where 'topshop' is situated. as much as I loathe phil green this will hurt other people far more.
Exactly who will be "hurt" by this and how?
 
Considering the TopShop in Morleys has an entirely separate entrance and you could easily wander round the latter without realising the former is attached (I did when I first moved to the area), I can't see how this protest will "hurt" the rest of Morleys, let alone lots of other people.
 
Just wandered past; couldn't see anything around Morley's but a small friendly crowd were outside Vodafone and seem to have managed to close it.
 
Topshop is a franchise in Morleys with many other businesses that will be affected by this action. Why dont you concentrate on Flagship stores and hit Peter Greens profits not local businesses which suport local projects such as the Brixton Pound.

You're right that Morleys supports the B£ and is a decent local/independent business. But let's be absolutely clear - Topshop in Brixton is run by Topshop, the staff are employed by Topshop and the profits made there go to Philip Green (or, more accurately, his wife) without proper tax being paid. The fact that Topshop rent their shop space off Morleys is neither here nor there.
 
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