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Brixton Rec/central Brixton consultation and the 'Rec Quarter' proposals

Should identities be permanent?

The answer is no. Just as we as individuals change over the course of our lives so do neighbourhoods. Even individual buildings change their function and then we change our relationship to them.
I'm just thinking aloud posting freely, for me it's about how the change comes about, what drives it, how the change impacts upon those with little or no say about its direction; those without the voice are working class. We are only given a voice by a middle class media for the purpose of entertainment at best and political persecution at worst.

Even class identities shift, especially now as communication via internet makes information freely available breaking down barriers for all of us. Everything changes all of the time, it's about managing the change in a just manner, having regard for what was there before. Middle class people are good at restoring original features in properties once the working class have been evicted.

I make some pertinent points badly because i am drunk but at least i did not shit in the river.
 
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I don't expect them to be permanent but it would be nice if change was a bit more organic rather than forced.
Even in organic process the pace of change varies. Changes in Brixton have been happening slowly for years and it appears to have hit the tipping point. With no specifics in mind, changes which might not look organic when considering Brixton on its own might look more organic when you zoom out and consider the whole of Lambeth / London / UK / Europe.
Which changes do you feel have been forced and which have been organic?
 
Rushy I don't think anything has been forced. This conversation is in reply to
SpamMisery 's comment about wanting Brixton to become Borough market.

Although some of the consultations are clear that many decisions have been made before hand for example the town hall scheme.
Does consultation make change any more or less organic per se?
 
Consultation is bollocks. It's a real life sham. Looking down their noses, ticking their boxes, assuaging their guilt, they wash their hands of us, their democracy unsullied marches on. It's not wearing any clothes!
 
Who'd have thought saying you like Borough market would cause a fracas. Two sentences and we might have found ourselves in a ruckus. It's easy to see how wars get started.
 
There is no threat to the Rec. Its future is guaranteed in the Brixton SPD.

As the Rec is part of the Brixton Central site they are one of the groups contacted. Any plans for the the Brixton Central site need to be coherent so BRUGs involvement is necessary.

A survey is being done of the Rec to see what works could be done to improve it. Its a large underused space. Any redevelopment of the "Brixton Central" area could also involve using the Rec building in a better way. It could be a more publicly used space. As it was envisioned when it was first designed. Through the work of the stalwarts of BRUG the Council is consulting them into the Rec future.

To give the consultants "Fluid" there due they were interested in the Rec building. I do think the "playing cards" was a mistake. I am not the only one not happy with that approach.

I do think that the site is so complicated (railway lines cross it, different owners of land, existing business in place in the area) that I am not at all clear how it would be possible to develop this site without major disruption. The Market traders rep at the first meeting said he was concerned that two years of disruption in that area could destroy the street market.

The only section of the site that is a clear area is the old car park/ ice rink site.

BRUG does contain people who have a lot of knowledge of the area. Many of them are concerned about what is happening to Brixton as well as protecting the Rec. ( gentrification , affordable housing , protecting the markets etc. A lot of the issues that get raised on these boards. Goes to show that U75 is not out of touch). So there input is important imo.

It is quite true that Brixton Rec’s future is guaranteed by the SPD, but do remember that such a plan has a life, I believe, of 10 years and while its short and medium term future is also secured by Cllr Lib Peck’s unequivocal commitment, no-one can guarantee she will be council leader in ten years time, therefore it is worth looking at the longer term future of the Rec - say 15 years and up.

A key major expense of Brixton Rec is energy. Darren Pope, the manager, reported in March that he was reading the meters daily and gas consumption amounted to £450/day and electricity to £380/day, which happens to be down from last year due to GLL energy saving measures. In fact GLL publish energy consumption statistics and graphs alongside the Energy Performance Certificate in the Rec’s foyer which confirm his figures. If this issue isn't tackled very seriously then its continued existence as a community facility could well be revisited in 15 or 20 years.

The council will be looking at all ways of making the Rec more financially viable. It is currently a hugely popular, successful and well-used facility, with 75,000 visits per month, but some areas such as the under-used very large and high bowls hall down at the bottom are likely to be reviewed. One question that may be considered is whether it could be ‘mezzanined’. Another question that has been asked is could it remain as a single space but become, or double as, a conference hall or convention centre?

Just one of the very many different options in the capacity study prepared in consultation with BRUG is: "As part of the exploration of sustainability and energy efficiency opportunities, this should include exploration and analysis of the ability to achieve Passivhaus EnerPHit Standard" and hopefully that this is included is an indicator of a more open attitude within Lambeth to new ideas.

Passivhaus is an energy efficiency standard well above that required by current building standards achievable by only a small or zero cost premium over standard new-build. While being taken up around the world, especially in Germany and Austria, it is little known about in this country. In fact Passivhaus involves a fairly simple set of principles, applied as a package - more info at: http://passipedia.passiv.de/passipedia_en/

The Mildmay Community Centre in north London was originally a Victorian generator building for north London trams. In 2011 it was refurbished to Passivhaus standards and now uses 90% less energy than before. If Brixton Rec could reduce its energy bills by a substantial amount - say 80 or 90 per cent - that would reduce the pressure on its day to day running costs and reduce the temptation to turn over some of its space to commercial enterprise. Of course, saving energy and money doesn’t in itself exclude the possibility that an area of the Rec that is underused should not be looked at as to how its usage could be increased.

It is not just the general building that contributes to the high energy use but also the swimming pool, which high summertime gas consumption suggests is also expensive to run. There are two Passivhaus swimming pools in Germany and the monitoring of one of them suggests that improvements could be made to the pool itself, and to the pool’s building, that could raise it to greater energy efficiency than a standard low-energy new-build swimming pool (such as at Clapham), but whether that would actually be achievable in practice would depend of course on in depth studies, and any Passivhaus refurbishment would also involve the question of whether it is better to spend more money now in return for future savings. It is not just in energy bills that Passivhaus offers savings, but should also lead to lower maintenance costs as Passivhaus buildings need greatly reduced heat input and therefore much smaller heating plant. Apart from contributing to global warming, the Rec’s massive energy consumption will either be paid for by us directly in the entrance charges or by us indirectly through council tax. In April an energy sub-group to BRUG organised a visit to Mildmay Community Centre and is now recommending a visit by a German expert on swimming pools from the Passivhaus Institute in Germany to give a presentation and an initial consultation on possibilities for the Rec.

So, what are the possible downsides of a Passivhaus retrofit? Brixton Rec is recognised as being part of the brutalist school of architecture, and was designed by George Finch who was very keen to design for the community and for the ordinary person, and who spent a year looking at other buildings in preparation. A Passivhaus retrofit might prefer external rather than internal insulation on some of the walls e.g. the sides and back, which would change the appearance, but would mean less disruption and no loss of space to the inside and give greater internal temperature stability. Next time you pass it by take a look at the sides of the Rec (you can only see the back with difficulty, if at all). Would a change in appearance be a problem - or a challenge to Brixton artists to come forward with design proposals? I believe that buildings should be changeable in design to meet changing needs if the new design makes a positive improvement to the area, but any such choice should be put to the people of Brixton.

Inside, a modern ventilation system might require silvery looking circular ducts running throughout the building as existing ducts are likely to be unsuitable - would that be a problem or another interesting design challenge? In the 1970s George Finch was regarded as a bit of a maverick and didn’t follow existing convention in his designs. I would argue that we should not blindly follow convention either and be prepared to make positive changes. It would be sad if in 30 years time Brixton Rec was preserved as a brutalist shell to a shopping mall...

What is happening next? The council will appoint, via LSH, a cost consultancy firm to review all the options as defined in the capacity study, and a tendering process will examine how the companies would handle the issues. BRUG has been kept in touch with progress and procedures via quarterly meetings between GLL/Lambeth and BRUG, and in between, and will get the opportunity to put questions to the companies bidding. Brixton Energy/Repowering is producing a report re Brixton Central.

Planning and debate on the Rec will go on for a while but currently there is survey of what people think about it until the 30th May. It is not only for people who use the Rec but also for people who don’t to find out why they don’t, so if you live or work in Lambeth, do fill it it.

http://www.lambeth.gov.uk/brixtonrecsurvey

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Forced: Eviction of squatters and selling off council properties
True. And before that compulsorily purchasing a huge proportion of the properties in central Brixton, evicting the renters / owners / communities and leaving the properties empty so that they became squatted.
 
True. And before that compulsorily purchasing a huge proportion of the properties in central Brixton, evicting the renters / owners / communities and leaving the properties empty so that they became squatted.

Is this pushing it further and further back in time cos we could? The displacement of communities by the war, The displacement of the poor by the arrival of the railways, the displacement of the poor by the introduction of major new roads such as Regent's street, the displacement of the poor by the enclosure of common land in the late 18th and early 19th century, etc....
 
True. And before that compulsorily purchasing a huge proportion of the properties in central Brixton, evicting the renters / owners / communities and leaving the properties empty so that they became squatted.

The properties in central Brixton were originally "Short Life" not squatted. Parts of Rushcroft Road, Clifton Mansions and Carlton Mansions.

Compulsory purchase for the Hollamby planned development ( only Barrier Block and Rec were built) was resisted at the time from what I have been told. By 70s some Afro Caribbeans had bought houses in Brixton.
 
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Is this pushing it further and further back in time cos we could? The displacement of communities by the war, The displacement of the poor by the arrival of the railways, the displacement of the poor by the introduction of major new roads such as Regent's street, the displacement of the poor by the enclosure of common land in the late 18th and early 19th century, etc....

I see you have been studying your history well. :thumbs:
 
Is this pushing it further and further back in time cos we could? The displacement of communities by the war, The displacement of the poor by the arrival of the railways, the displacement of the poor by the introduction of major new roads such as Regent's street, the displacement of the poor by the enclosure of common land in the late 18th and early 19th century, etc....

Don't forget the Norman Conquest - not a day goes by without reminders of its enduring, doleful impact.
 
Is this pushing it further and further back in time cos we could? The displacement of communities by the war, The displacement of the poor by the arrival of the railways, the displacement of the poor by the introduction of major new roads such as Regent's street, the displacement of the poor by the enclosure of common land in the late 18th and early 19th century, etc....

It is pointing out that Brixton has had many lives. And privileging one over another is dubious.
 
Is this pushing it further and further back in time cos we could? The displacement of communities by the war, The displacement of the poor by the arrival of the railways, the displacement of the poor by the introduction of major new roads such as Regent's street, the displacement of the poor by the enclosure of common land in the late 18th and early 19th century, etc....

Also Capital volume one is a mine of information on how development of modern Capitalism affected the poor. It also shows how new identities can be formed. In 19c the factory system led to development of a new industrial proletariat. A new identity that Marx correctly saw as the future. The other development of that period was the enlarging of the servant class drawn from the poor. Industrialization led to greater productivity and a surplus population.

The displacement you quote are directly related to the development of Capitalism in 19c.

Identities as Deadwood said are not fixed. Nor should they be imo. Marx saw that Capitalism had revolutionized society. Its effects, however, left to its own course was to lead to an unequal society. The whole point of Marx was not to preserve a working class identity. It was that new working class was the identity that could get rid of Capitalism. Then using the great industrial productivity developed under Capitalism to free people from "work". All could develop there human potential. Identities could be pursued in freedom.

The "forced" changes in Brixton ( I refer to recent years) are due in large part to Capitalist market in land and housing. Forced in the sense that there is no democratic control over them. Other than some weak planning guidelines. This affects whole of London.


The better changes ( do not like word organic) are that from Windrush generation Brixton has been a multicultural area. ( This also goes for rest of London) As Brixton was an affordable place to live new for "identities" like North African and South American came to Brixton. This is becoming less so now due to the forced changes. London was a wonderful experiment in how people from all parts of the world could live together. This is being lost as London becomes increasingly unaffordable for many.

Why the consultation on Brixton Central site is important. Its not imo about keeping Brixton in aspic its about keeping it affordable.
 
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London was a wonderful experiment in how people from all parts of the world could live together. This is being lost as London becomes increasingly unaffordable for many.

Ironically, part of the reason why this is being lost is exactly because 'people from all parts of the world' come to live here (and I include myself - a Westcountry hayseed - in this).

That's because the unaffordability is driven by what the Economist calls spectacular population growth, along with easy money and little building.
 
Ironically, part of the reason why this is being lost is exactly because 'people from all parts of the world' come to live here (and I include myself - a Westcountry hayseed - in this).

That's because the unaffordability is driven by what the Economist calls spectacular population growth, along with easy money and little building.

Just going to have to disagree with you on this.

Over years Council housing has not been built. Companies like Barrats can get out of affordable housing on there developments, rent controls were got rid off, tenancies are less secure than years ago etc etc.

Unlike Germany the "free" market rules here. Heard a German on radio ( who had lived here) say that in this country housing is about profit. In Germany this is not the case.

Why do the less well off have to bare brunt of lack of housing?
 
Just going to have to disagree with you on this.

Over years Council housing has not been built. Companies like Barrats can get out of affordable housing on there developments, rent controls were got rid off, tenancies are less secure than years ago etc etc.

Unlike Germany the "free" market rules here. Heard a German on radio ( who had lived here) say that in this country housing is about profit. In Germany this is not the case.

Why do the less well off have to bare brunt of lack of housing?

Fair points - the lack of building was one of the three factors I cited.

But you cannot ignore the demand issue, especially in London.

People want to live here, not in other parts of the UK, where affordability is better.

This chart just about sums it up

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leanderman There are quite a lot of empty buildings and large empty sites. It would be better for the councils to work on negotiating the empty buildings back into use, developing empty sites or making it difficult for sites to stay empty rather than sweeping the poorer people out of the area as that is the easy option for them.
 
leanderman There are quite a lot of empty buildings and large empty sites. It would be better for the councils to work on negotiating the empty buildings back into use, developing empty sites or making it difficult for sites to stay empty rather than sweeping the poorer people out of the area as that is the easy option for them.

Two big sites at the end of this road empty for a combined 30 years. Should have been compulsorily purchased for social housing.
 
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