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mjd said:
I think that's a shame. As someone towards whom I imagine this latest criticism is directed, I would welcome the chance to learn more about longstanding local issues and how I could help the area in which I now live.

I can understand how longtime posters feel marginalised by the changes happening in Brixton and to the forum to which they used to turn to vent with, and for support from, likeminded individuals no longer being 100% aligned to their views. But to shut down anyone who is not old Brixton on here and refuse to see their point of view, to level the accusation of "Tory scum" at them without engaging with them on the issues in an open-minded and non-knee jerk way, that seems to me to be short-sighted. We all live here and if we are to continue to do so then we should try to understand a little more about each other and listen to each other's points of view.

My view are not necessarily wrong. They may be more right wing than the views of others on here, but that makes them no less valid as views. Perhaps one of the reasons that the politics forums are better places in which to engage in discussions is because neither side of an argument feels that the other is encroaching on its "turf". I accept that some of my responses could be seen as personal attacks. But that is because so much of what is thrown back, with which all posters in the past may have agreed, is now a personal attack to the changing demographic of the board. So I suppose there is a choice (which I think T&P (?) mentioned earlier). Is the Brixton forum open to anyone, or should anyone '"nu-Brixton" no longer contribute?
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This is what you said in post 854


Places change, old stands alongside new, large alongside small and wealth alongside poverty, and we need to learn to accept that without fighting it just for the sake of it.
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No you don't understand it.
 
Gramsci said:
This is what you said in post 854




No you don't understand it.
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Sorry, perhaps I didn't express myself properly. I meant to say that I understand that changes are happening, and that those changes will make longtime posters feel marginalised. I know that I do not, and cannot ever understand what it feels like for those who are going through it.
 
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mjd said:
Sorry, perhaps I didn't express myself properly. I meant to say that I understand that changes are happening, and that those changes will make longtime posters feel marginalised. I know that I do not, and cannot ever understand what it feels like for those who are going through it.
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Change is inevitable
 
editor said:
And the change that is happening in Brixton is making life quantifiably worse for a whole lot of people.
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Do you mean the gentrification of Brixton, taken in isolation, has made life quantifiably worse for a whole lot of people in Brixton.
 
Mr Retro said:
Do you mean the gentrification of Brixton, taken in isolation, has made life quantifiably worse for a whole lot of people in Brixton.
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I know you don't live here, but I thought that was fairly obvious. Do you think the residents of Cressingham Gardens want their estate flattened? Do you think the arch traders wanted to be kicked out or have their rents doubled or even tripled? Did you think that the Guinness Trust residents or those long serving members of the community in Carlton Mansions, Clifton Mansions, Rushcroft Road etc wanted to be turfed out? Do you think traders wanted their rents doubled or even tripled? Do you think Kaff, The Grosvenor and the Canterbury all wanted to close? Do you think residents have welcomed people shouting and pissing in the streets all night?
 
3Zeros said:
Pretty sure it's deliberate. As in spelling things correctly is "normal" & "boring". It's a terrible idea with even worse execution.
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Weird though that they spelt 'Fuck' correctly as that's the one thing you might understand if they chose to obscure the word.
 
editor said:
I know you don't live here, but I thought that was fairly obvious. Do you think the residents of Cressingham Gardens want their estate flattened? Do you think the arch traders wanted to be kicked out or have their rents doubled or even tripled? Did you think that the Guinness Trust residents or those long serving members of the community in Carlton Mansions, Clifton Mansions, Rushcroft Road etc wanted to be turfed out? Do you think traders wanted their rents doubled or even tripled? Do you think Kaff, The Grosvenor and the Canterbury all wanted to close? Do you think residents have welcomed people shouting and pissing in the streets all night?
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Of course not. I think all that is shit. Nobody on here thinks otherwise. In fact if the Canterbury was still open we would still be living in Brixton. But that’s not what I asked though.

You said gentrification has made Brixton “quantifiably” worse. That means it has been or can be accurately measured. Or quantified. I doubt it has been and I’m not sure it even could be quantified. My post is just asking if you know better. I would be very interested in reading that
 
Mr Retro said:
You said gentrification has made Brixton “quantifiably” worse. That means it has been or can be accurately measured. Or quantified. I doubt it has been and I’m not sure it even could be quantified. My post is just asking if you know better. I would be very interested in reading that
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Jesus. Yes of course it can be 'quantifiably' calculated and measured on an individual basis. Because it affects each person differently.
But you'd know that if you lived here and talked to people who are on the sharp end of gentrification, rent rises, evictions, the growing poverty divide and the rise of exclusive, unaffordable bars and restaurants for all those essential "occasional treats."
 
Mr Retro said:
Of course not. I think all that is shit. Nobody on here thinks otherwise. In fact if the Canterbury was still open we would still be living in Brixton. But that’s not what I asked though.

You said gentrification has made Brixton “quantifiably” worse. That means it has been or can be accurately measured. Or quantified. I doubt it has been and I’m not sure it even could be quantified. My post is just asking if you know better. I would be very interested in reading that
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I think he means that cost of living in Brixton (whether rent, food, drink, socialising...) has increased through gentrification at a greater rate and by a greater amount that would be the case through the course of normal inflation, which is easy for someone to quantify.
 
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