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theboris said:
It's not just the police cuts. It's all the other austerity-driven cuts to social care, mental health services, Sure Start etc. This means the plod are having to be social workers / mental health workers / youth workers / para medics etc. And it's not really what they are trained for
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And that leaves a lot of shop workers bearing the brunt. It's a disgrace.
 
editor said:
Some fuckers nicked the lead a few years ago and ever since then it start to leak when we have a really heavy rainfall. The roofing people are back tomorrow morning but there's already water stains appearing on the ceiling.
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At least you have got someone on it. Hope it gets sorted.
 
ShiftyBagLady said:
As a general rule I don't try to disabuse people of their interpretations of what I say because I'm not into having bun fights and because if they were sincerely interested in what I'm saying then they'd read it. I say 'clearly' not to patronise but because you're posing a conclusion to an argument I didn't make.
I didn't make any class commentary here at all so it was clearly not what I was saying.

It seemed proportionate to kick them out and even to close the shop (I never said they shouldn't have followed their safety protocol), I didn't even say that they should expect or endure abuse, I said it would be disproportionate, and it would disproportionately impact on their future life chances to have them charged with an offence.
Can there be no response other than 'string 'em up'? :confused:
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You entered the bun fight. David Clapson posted up and you decided to wade in. So don't understand what you mean about not entering bunfights. You entered it.

What David Clapson said in post 468 was that the police were called:

Starbucks closed early today because the staff were upset by 2 teenage girls giving them verbal abuse. The girls have done this on several occasions recently. The girls were asked to leave, but refused. Police attended and persuaded them to leave. But a few minutes later the girls were seen hanging around near the store. The staff became distressed so the manager shut the store. If only the girls had been arrested. It was clear they'd committed an offence (causing alarm and distress with intent).
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So police intervened. Persuaded them to leave and once police had gone they came back to further upset staff to the point where the manager had to close the store. They ignored the police and came back. Seems to me the police didn't want to criminalise them. Yet they saw that as police being soft and came back once police had gone. Seems to me the police had given them a lot of leeway and they ignored it.

Don't try to smear me with the "string them up" argument. Like I who think working class people on low wages should have legal protection from harassment are Tories.

Your subtext is that you are using a class analysis.

But its the wrong one.

I'm fully aware of the devastation of cuts and so called "austerity" on youth. I was at meeting yesterday evening arguing with Cllr about ensuring the future of the local adventure playground.

Doesn't mean that sticking up for the workers makes me a "string them up" Tory.
 
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You're wilfully misinterpreting me so I'm not even going to bother responding to the jibes. Not sure what you're problem is but you can go and 'air quote' someone else for entertainment.
 
What a day!

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A rain storm on Brixton’s hottest ever day in July while fights break out at Brockwell Lido, Thurs 25th July 2019
 
ShiftyBagLady said:
You're wilfully misinterpreting me so I'm not even going to bother responding to the jibes. Not sure what you're problem is but you can go and 'air quote' someone else for entertainment.
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This is just abuse.

Its you that has been posting up jibes. "String them up"- that's a jibe.

Its not entertainment for me.

I do a working class job and campaign to save things like my local adventure playground for example.

Its not me that has the problem.

You wade in and then have a go.

Then accuse me of just posting up for "entertainment".

No its not me that has the problem. Its you.

You don't even quote me. You just put up little post I might miss.

Posting up here means people might react to your posts. That is how discussion board work.

I have long genuine interest in the Brixton area and I really object to my posts here being referred to as for "entertainment" or as "air quotes". You took part in this debate.

Your quite entitled to disagree.

But to insinuate I'm just her to post up for "entertainment" is abuse. And not in keeping with my record here as long standing poster with genuine interest in the area.
 
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editor said:
What a day!

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A rain storm on Brixton’s hottest ever day in July while fights break out at Brockwell Lido, Thurs 25th July 2019
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My Spanish partner was saying in Spain if its this hot people don't do much in middle of day. Early morning and late evening people get things done and go out.

With Climate change this country might need to change its lifestyle.

Its hardly surprising tempers flare. Here people aren't used to dealing with this level of heat on a daily basis.

I was cycling around City and West End today. Its to much to expect people to work in this in middle of day.
 
Gramsci said:
This is just abuse....

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Posting up here means people might react to your posts. That is how discussion boards work.
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Often the ‘reaction’ is to ban people one doesn’t agree with on this particular board. And abuse them.

That’s *not* how discussion boards are meant to work.
 
discobastard said:
Often the ‘reaction’ is to ban people one doesn’t agree with on this particular board. And abuse them.

That’s *not* how discussion boards are meant to work.
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I'm not a mod so can't ban people. So don't understand why your jumping in here over this disagreement with another poster.

Don't understand what you mean by "this particular board".

If you read my post I categorically say ShiftBagLady is entitled to disagree with me.

I haven't asked for that poster to be banned. Nor have I implied that.

So I don't understand what your are going on about in relation to me.

If you have an issue with banning and the mods here you can take it to the feedback forum, Which was set up to deal with complaints about banning and moderating on this forum.
 
Gramsci said:
This is just abuse.

Its you that has been posting up jibes. "String them up"- that's a jibe.

Its not entertainment for me.

I do a working class job and campaign to save things like my local adventure playground for example.

Its not me that has the problem.

You wade in and then have a go.

Then accuse me of just posting up for "entertainment".

No its not me that has the problem. Its you.

You don't even quote me. You just put up little post I might miss.

Posting up here means people might react to your posts. That is how discussion board work.

I have long genuine interest in the Brixton area and I really object to my posts here being referred to as for "entertainment" or as "air quotes". You took part in this debate.

Your quite entitled to disagree.

But to insinuate I'm just her to post up for "entertainment" is abuse. And not in keeping with my record here as long standing poster with genuine interest in the area.
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Report me then.
I haven't abused you at all. You are taking things personally when they weren't intended as jibes.
You do a lot for the community, I know that I respect that.
That's really all I'm going to respond to.
 
ShiftyBagLady said:
Report me then.
I haven't abused you at all. You are taking things personally when they weren't intended as jibes.
You do a lot for the community, I know that I respect that.
That's really all I'm going to respond to.
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For the record: no one has reported any post from this thread, neither has anyone been banned.
 
ShiftyBagLady said:
Report me then.
I haven't abused you at all. You are taking things personally when they weren't intended as jibes.
You do a lot for the community, I know that I respect that.
That's really all I'm going to respond to.
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I've already told you your entitled to your opinion. I've posted I think its abuse.

That doesn't mean Im interested in bannings or reporting of your posts.

Its the rough and tumble of the boards as far as I'm concerned.

Discobastard jumped in trying to link this with the moderating of this board and I said Discobastard can take that to the feedback forum.

I objected to Discobastard linking my disagrement with you with issue of bannings of people.

My argument with you had nothing to do with banning and the moderation of this forum and it was wrong of Discobastard to link them.
 
Gramsci said:
I've already told you your entitled to your opinion. I've posted I think its abuse.

That doesn't mean Im interested in bannings or reporting of your posts.

Its the rough and tumble of the boards as far as I'm concerned.

Discobastard jumped in trying to link this with the moderating of this board and I said Discobastard can take that to the feedback forum.

I objected to Discobastard linking my disagrement with you with issue of bannings of people.

My argument with you had nothing to do with banning and the moderation of this forum and it was wrong of Discobastard to link them.
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My post was a standalone comment, not at all linked to your other conversation.
Honestly, if you think I've abused you then go on ahead and report me. Abusive behaviour is not on so be my guest.
I really haven't abused you though.
You've taken things personally, misinterpreted what I've said and got annoyed when I wouldn't debate your misinterpretation. I've been really clear about what I thought and if I didn't quote you it wasn't because I was being underhanded (an insinuation I found quite funny, actually) it was an oversight or because your post was directly above mine.
Anyway, whatever, I already said I don't care to debate if people have misinterpreted me and yet here we are.. if only I hadn't waded in with an opinion :hmm:

I know you're an active member of the community (and I trust and rely on your insight when it comes to community matters, truth be told) so I'm sorry if you felt slighted but I was never talking about you. If I've crossed the line, report me.
 
Just to make it clear to all here in all my years on this site I've only reported posts twice to the best of my recollection.

The only poster I've asked to be banned is SpamMisery.

If any poster has problems with the moderation of Brixton board they can take it to Feedback Forum for. discussion.

To also clarify I've never been a Mod here.

To also clarify for all here Im not one to report posts just because I have an argument with someone here.
 
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