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Onket said:
You don't think Brixton is a better place that it was 10 years ago? If you don't then you must be seriously unhinged.
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depends on what you mean by better. safer, yes. but compared to essex i always felt safer on the streets of brixton. better places to eat? well, depends on your taste, i haven';t enjoyed any of the new brixton food experiences. better pubs? i think they've all changed for the worst really. better housing? more expensive sure. i don't think i'm seriously unhinged to be happy to have left brixton as i no longer enjoyed it. maybe that's me aging though, rather than brixton changing but i think it's a bit of both.
 
teuchter said:
How does SE24 fit into this picture?
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el-ahrairah said:
depends on what you mean by better. safer, yes. but compared to essex i always felt safer on the streets of brixton. better places to eat? well, depends on your taste, i haven';t enjoyed any of the new brixton food experiences. better pubs? i think they've all changed for the worst really. better housing? more expensive sure. i don't think i'm seriously unhinged to be happy to have left brixton as i no longer enjoyed it. maybe that's me aging though, rather than brixton changing but i think it's a bit of both.
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Yes it's safer. Wider range of food available (and I don't beleive you don't like ANY of the places you've tried!). You think ALL pubs have changed for the worst?! Housing is a fair-ish point, but it's a tricky one. Vacant lots have been brought back into use, and that's got to be a good thing.

You're aging and you're seriously unhinged. :p
 
editor said:
May I suggest you get there early for the beer launch? We sampled all three ales last night and they were fucking lovely and very moreish!
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Where will they be on sale, I think the mr would like to sample them but in the comfort of our living room? And what are they again?
 
nagapie said:
Where will they be on sale, I think the mr would like to sample them but in the comfort of our living room? And what are they again?
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The launch is from 7-9pm but there's probably a good chance we'll sell out. If all goes well (and I'm very confident after tasting the beers last night and talking to a few local bar owners) we'll start producing bigger batches in a month or so.

Here's the beer details http://www.brixtonbuzz.com/2013/09/...us-at-our-brixton-buzz-beer-launch-on-friday/
 
Onket said:
Yes it's safer. Wider range of food available (and I don't beleive you don't like ANY of the places you've tried!). You think ALL pubs have changed for the worst?! Housing is a fair-ish point, but it's a tricky one. Vacant lots have been brought back into use, and that's got to be a good thing.

You're aging and you're seriously unhinged. :p
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ok, i've only tried two places in teh village and both times it was disappointing. what pubs have changed for the better? some are unchanged, which is nice, but mostly they've become a bit gastro, clean, identikit. no life. i agree with you about vacant lots being brought back into use, that's a good thing, even if the nature of capitalism means that they're not being used very wisely for the most part.
 
el-ahrairah said:
depends on what you mean by better. safer, yes. but compared to essex i always felt safer on the streets of brixton. better places to eat? well, depends on your taste, i haven';t enjoyed any of the new brixton food experiences. better pubs? i think they've all changed for the worst really. better housing? more expensive sure. i don't think i'm seriously unhinged to be happy to have left brixton as i no longer enjoyed it. maybe that's me aging though, rather than brixton changing but i think it's a bit of both.
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Housing is, regrettably, more costly just about everywhere in London. Brixton has in fact risen by less than quite a few places, not just Notting Hill.
 
el-ahrairah said:
ok, i've only tried two places in teh village and both times it was disappointing. what pubs have changed for the better? some are unchanged, which is nice, but mostly they've become a bit gastro, clean, identikit. no life. i agree with you about vacant lots being brought back into use, that's a good thing, even if the nature of capitalism means that they're not being used very wisely for the most part.
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I don't mind pubs being tarted up a bit, but the real loss has come from the community who are no longer there, courtesy of our "co-operative" council's eviction program. Brixton is very much the worse for not having those long term residents around any more.
 
editor said:
May I suggest you get there early for the beer launch? We sampled all three ales last night and they were fucking lovely and very moreish!
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Coming straight from work so will be there at 7 on the dot! In fact I may well head for a pre-launch beer somewhere else rather than stick around in the office...

Also I noticed builders have started working on the building on the corner of Wynne Road and Brixton Rd.
 
leanderman said:
The point I was making was that this pair came in, cleaned up and cleared out.

In my case, this is my home and that of my kids and, in small ways, I try to engage locally.
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I was surprised they were selling as they had very much designed and built it to be architect offices down stairs and home upstairs. They came across as plonkas on telly but even Kev McC admits they edit footage to make people more polarising than they are. When I met the guy on open house day last year he was clearly passionate about architecture and the build and really quite unassuming and friendly. We don't know why they are selling or where they were going. They don't have kids so their priorities are different to yours. I don't have kids and my priorities are different to yours. As an architect into sustainability who has clearly stated that the project was a prototype for mass produced energy efficient houses he could well be trying to raise cash to develop his idea. Who knows?
 
Rushy said:
I was surprised they were selling as they had very much designed and built it to be architect offices down stairs and home upstairs. They came across as plonkas on telly but even Kev McC admits they edit footage to make people more polarising than they are. When I met the guy on open house day last year he was clearly passionate about architecture and the build and really quite unassuming and friendly. We don't know why they are selling or where they were going. They don't have kids so their priorities are different to yours. I don't have kids and my priorities are different to yours. As an architect into sustainability who has clearly stated that the project was a prototype for mass produced energy efficient houses he could well be trying to raise cash to develop his idea. Who knows?
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Pfft, much safer to assume they're greedy cunts.
 
el-ahrairah said:
ok, i've only tried two places in teh village and both times it was disappointing. what pubs have changed for the better? some are unchanged, which is nice, but mostly they've become a bit gastro, clean, identikit. no life.
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The Albert was neatened up pretty well fairly recently, wasn't it? So was The Trinity.

el-ahrairah said:
i agree with you about vacant lots being brought back into use, that's a good thing, even if the nature of capitalism means that they're not being used very wisely for the most part.
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Not specific to Brixton, that. And I'd say pretty much anything would be better than crumbling empty buildings. I get your point though, and don't really disagree.
 
Onket said:
The Albert was neatened up pretty well fairly recently, wasn't it? So was The Trinity.
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The Albert at least didn't change apart from some minor interior changes, while a place like the Dogstar for example has gone completely downhill on a weekend.
 
leanderman said:
The point I was making was that this pair came in, cleaned up and cleared out.

In my case, this is my home and that of my kids and, in small ways, I try to engage locally.
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I'm not quite sure what the relevance of having kids is, as far as the "land grab" analogy is concerned.
 
Rushy said:
I was surprised they were selling as they had very much designed and built it to be architect offices down stairs and home upstairs. They came across as plonkas on telly but even Kev McC admits they edit footage to make people more polarising than they are. When I met the guy on open house day last year he was clearly passionate about architecture and the build and really quite unassuming and friendly. We don't know why they are selling or where they were going. They don't have kids so their priorities are different to yours. I don't have kids and my priorities are different to yours. As an architect into sustainability who has clearly stated that the project was a prototype for mass produced energy efficient houses he could well be trying to raise cash to develop his idea. Who knows?
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I suspect they had to sell up becuase it went over budget and they couldn't afford to service their debts.
 
teuchter said:
I suspect they had to sell up becuase it went over budget and they couldn't afford to service their debts.
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Who knows. Hopefully now that he has won the Manser prize and was short-listed for the Striling Prize his ideas will move forward.
 
Onket said:
Never liked the Dogstar, tbf.
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I loved it back in the late 90s early 00s. Practically lived in there. It's a bit middle of the road now IMO. No longer very exciting yet too grotty/uncomfortable to be a nice place to have couple of pints and some food.
 
Onket said:
The Albert was neatened up pretty well fairly recently, wasn't it? So was The Trinity.

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The Trinity tart up was a fail IMO. Lots of garish cushions, faux-rustic touches etc were to the detriment of what I found to be a nice, relaxing proper pub. I don't hate it, still go occasionally, but it lost a certain something which was the thing I liked about it best.
 
I don't particularly buy the idea that those who sell up following an increase in the value of their property are somehow less virtuous or more greedy than those who stay put (aside form vague notions of "engagement with the community" etc).

Staying put in a property you bought cheap but which now finds itself in an expensive area still puts you at a big advantage compared to many of those around you, particularly those who are renting. Does that make you greedy, or just fortunate?
 
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