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I've asked Slo mo his agenda and I've taken the trouble to go over his posting record. He still hasn't answered to say if he is a Tory voter.

He does say EU immigration is bad. He uses the term "mass" migration. It's that kind of terminology which is tight wing.

I don't know what London you lived in. When Poles got right to come here thousands arrived. Suddenly I was working with Poles. It was sudden.

I don't think working class Londoners were privileged. If anything it wasn't in the cynical selfish economic interests of working class Londoners to have a load of Poles here. No different from a small town. Which btw I came from. My brother still lives there. He said they were all going on about immigrants. This issue of course came up with Commonwealth citizens coming here after war. Backlash led to 1971 act when they lower right to freedom of movement in commonwealth. No different from Poles.

London is hardly privileged. It's that the working class people I know see it as a rich/ poor divide. Class not race/ immigration.

I see this in Brixton. People do not go on about immigrants or race. They go on as about Pop or the NR social cleansing of arches. They talk about Grenfell. Do in London the resentment us against the well off/ social cleansing of London. It's class issue.

Which , as evidenced here on Brixton forum, some see as prejudice.

I see at as Londoners on whole as seeing the real issue. Class not immigratiion.
'mass migration' is a descriptive term not a politically loaded term. you say as much yourself when you say that it was immediate.

you appear to be avoiding the question as to whether having an opinion on immigration policy is automaticaly racist and whether policy may or may not have had an impact on how the recent windrush issue has arisen (or maybe I am missing your point). or whether this is something that the working class only have the right to comment on. and working/middle class is not binary.

anyway, it's late. cheers.
 
so any dialogue on whether the UK has (and this is just hypothetical) allowed too many people from other countries in, is racist? even if that dialogue is related to how it has impacted the provision of social services or crime or local community cohesion (whether rightly or wrongly)?

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Yes it is racist.

I've lived in Brixton for over thirty years. Plenty of community cohesion.

Thing that is destroying community cohesion is gentrification not immigrants.

Social services are under pressure due to government enforced "austerity" cuts not due to mass migration of the Polish/ Romanian population who come here. (Who obviously come her to take advantage of "our" over generous welfare state :rolleyes:)
 
'mass migration' is a descriptive term not a politically loaded term. you say as much yourself when you say that it was immediate.

you appear to be avoiding the question as to whether having an opinion on immigration policy is automaticaly racist and whether policy may or may not have had an impact on how the recent windrush issue has arisen (or maybe I am missing your point). or whether this is something that the working class only have the right to comment on. and working/middle class is not binary.

anyway, it's late. cheers.

Mass migration in this context is politally loaded term.

I've answered your question.

The reason I talk of working class is that is my experience. I don't mix much with middle class. Not through choice. It's how my life is.
 
thanks for clarifying.

I think you sacrifice a lot of valid issues for discussion in the pursuit of your own personalal narrative. And pretty selective in the points you address. But like you say, that’s your view. you don’t mix much with others so presumably what they think doesn’t matter. fair enough.
 
Slight topic chmage...any ideas what the film crew is at blues kitchen. 2nd day running and Load of trucks down trinty garden, getting in my way!
 
i think 'Stand Up To Racism' is basically the SWP, annoyingly.
I didn't know that, that is annoying. Didn't know SWP ever organised anything themselves - thought they just turned up to everyone elses actions.

But is SWP involvement enough of a reason to attend this rally in Windrush sq? surely it can't only be attended by SWP and if they are 'hiding' their identity in this way it cant give the misogynistic SWP much credit, can it?

I still want to attend, unless any windrush generation/desendants advise against it.
 
There's a beer and bread festival in May and some restaurant has shut....get with the real news, mate....

Many thanks for this reminder – from observation, I am aware of the priorities and interests of most of those who use the forum.

Notwithstanding that, given that the murdered woman was also a local resident, I think that her murder and humanity should be recorded even if it is not as important as other issues to those here or if others consider it to be a source of amusement or irrelevance to them ...

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This is 38-year old Mrs Samantha Clarke, an hotel assistant general manager, who worked at a former coaching inn in Henley, and who was murdered in her Brixton home in Sudburne Road on Sunday 15 April 2018, a few days after celebrating her son Joshua's 14th birthday. She was originally from High Wycombe in Buckinghamshire.

Last night, police were reported to be interviewing a 24-year-old man who is under arrest, and has been named locally as Jordan Clarke, who is understood to be Mrs Clarke's nephew.

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One of the Late Mrs Clarke's last social media messages.

May she rest in peace and may the person responsible face justice.
 
Some peeole gathering outside the memorial plaque at the moment, for the 19th anniversary of the nail bomb attack.
I'm glad its not forgotten. 1999 seems so long ago.
The anniversary of the soho Admiral Duncan bombing is on the 30th but I don't think there is anything official to mark it this year. There is a memorial 3 sided bench in St Annes churchyard (entrance on Wardour st) that remembers all 3 bombs and 3 people killed and and all those injured.
 
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Many thanks for this reminder – from observation, I am aware of the priorities and interests of most of those who use the forum.

Notwithstanding that, given that the murdered woman was also a local resident, I think that her murder and humanity should be recorded even if it is not as important as other issues to those here or if others consider it to be a source of amusement or irrelevance to them ..

I have been surprised by the lack of comment....especially given how much noise is made when a shop shuts or someone charges a fiver for bread...but a dead woman killed in her home happens without much being said at all....

....perhaps people don't care, or have run out of energy to care....I dunno....it's a shame
 
I have been surprised by the lack of comment....especially given how much noise is made when a shop shuts or someone charges a fiver for bread...but a dead woman killed in her home happens without much being said at all....

....perhaps people don't care, or have run out of energy to care....I dunno....it's a shame
I certainly care but really don't know what to say past being shocked and saddened. It's an awful thing to happen.
 
I have been surprised by the lack of comment....especially given how much noise is made when a shop shuts or someone charges a fiver for bread...but a dead woman killed in her home happens without much being said at all....

....perhaps people don't care, or have run out of energy to care....I dunno....it's a shame

I don't see what there is to say that will help the situation. Or do we all need to confirm that we think murder is wrong?

What comment do you have?
 
I have been surprised by the lack of comment....especially given how much noise is made when a shop shuts or someone charges a fiver for bread...but a dead woman killed in her home happens without much being said at all....

....perhaps people don't care, or have run out of energy to care....I dunno....it's a shame

It's because she was killed by her nephew. Her murder wasn't part of the wave of drug/gang knife crime on the streets. So people categorise it as non-threatening.
 
There's a beer and bread festival in May and some restaurant has shut....get with the real news, mate....

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Detectives investigating the murder of Mrs Samantha Clarke (pictured above) on Sunday 15 April 2018 at Sudbourne Road in Brixton have now charged 21-year old Jordan Clarke, 21 of Sudbourne Road, Brixton, with murder.

He will appear in custody at the Old Bailey on Thursday 19 April 2018.
 
I haven't been in, but to me the layout seems problematic shoplifting-wise.
They seemed to be greeting customers with freebies yet they had a rack of white sliced bread OUTSIDE labelled up at 95p I believe. Were you supposed to grab a loaf then go in store, or was this a gift to passing pedestrians?
 
I haven't been in, but to me the layout seems problematic shoplifting-wise.
They seemed to be greeting customers with freebies yet they had a rack of white sliced bread OUTSIDE labelled up at 95p I believe. Were you supposed to grab a loaf then go in store, or was this a gift to passing pedestrians?
I haven't been in yet either but their extra thick sliced bread is bloody great for toast.
 
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I haven't been in, but to me the layout seems problematic shoplifting-wise.
They seemed to be greeting customers with freebies yet they had a rack of white sliced bread OUTSIDE labelled up at 95p I believe. Were you supposed to grab a loaf then go in store, or was this a gift to passing pedestrians?

I guess they calculate the number of loaves stolen (even in Brixton) is outweighed by the increased sales from people being influenced to go inside (and who consequently spend more than the bread delta)

Or maybe they see themselves as a modern day Jesus, feeding the 5000
 
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