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friendofdorothy said:
I've just been cheered up by learning two thirds of all the calories we burn, are used up by just sitting about not really doing anything. (I'm watching 'The Truth about calories' on BBC iplayer) I'm burning about 90 cals an hour here apparently.
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90 calories is roughly 4 jelly babies.

If you dare to eat 5 in an hour, you'll put on weight! :eek:
 
TruXta said:
That BMR accounts for the majority of calories burned in a day.
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Saying that BMR accounts for 2/3rds of calories burnt in a day conveys that general point but obscures the more useful information, and additionally is untrue or at best misleading.
Saying that it accounts for 50-80% of calories burnt in a day depending on level of activity also conveys that general point plus the more useful information about the potential impact of physical activity.

So why are you saying I am "missing the point"? Do you think the "majority of calories burnt in a day" factoid is more important than the facts about the impact of physical activity? In what context is that point more important? And is it so much more inportant that we can ignore that fact that the 2/3rds claim is not really true?
 
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Im surprised that sitting on your Arsenal burns more than 10% of a normal daily intake. I suppose it obscures the (to me) most important point about weight loss; you still need to burn x calories to not be a fat burden on society
 
SpamMisery said:
Im surprised that sitting on your Arsenal burns more than 10% of a normal daily intake.
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Lets not start confusing percentage of daily intake with percentage of total daily expenditure, although given the cavalier disregard for accuracy and statistical literacy shown by some around here things are not looking promising.
 
SpamMisery said:
Im surprised that sitting on your Arsenal burns more than 10% of a normal daily intake. I suppose it obscures the (to me) most important point about weight loss; you still need to burn x calories to not be a fat burden on society
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I wish to register my belief in the Ancient Scottish Mackarness Diet.
This seems to have been nicked, modified and patented by Dr Robert Atkins, who then proceeded to have a number of heart attacks. (Maybe he should have left well alone - Dr Mackarness lived to be 80!)
It's not calories but carbs that fatten you up.
Book and Amazon.com review below (that proves it)
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***** More Atkins than Atkins!
I found this book at a flea market while on vacation this past week. It was the Pocket Book edition, 50 cents, published in 1958. As I read it I became both excited by the confirmation of the low-carb approach, and a trifle annoyed that Dr. Atkins has gotten most of the credit for "discovering" this more natural way of eating. I do not think that Dr. Atkins really added anything to Dr. Mackarness' regimen, and, in fact, added some "dubious dogma" in his endorsement of artificial sweeteners and what I call "fake food," e.g., his low-carbohydrate "bread."
 

Private Eye on Helen Hayes.

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Who'd have thought exercising in public would be such a social minefield?

I guess the best way to avoid any awkwardness is to travel by car/mini cab/Uber from the front door of your house directly to the entrance of the park or the gym.
 
teuchter said:
Lets not start confusing percentage of daily intake with percentage of total daily expenditure, although given the cavalier disregard for accuracy and statistical literacy shown by some around here things are not looking promising.
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You are not surprised that doing nothing will burn well over 10% of daily intake? I am.
 
teuchter said:
Saying that BMR accounts for 2/3rds of calories burnt in a day conveys that general point but obscures the more useful information, and additionally is untrue or at best misleading.
Saying that it accounts for 50-80% of calories burnt in a day depending on level of activity also conveys that general point plus the more useful information about the potential impact of physical activity.

So why are you saying I am "missing the point"? Do you think the "majority of calories burnt in a day" factoid is more important than the facts about the impact of physical activity? In what context is that point more important? And is it so much more inportant that we can ignore that fact that the 2/3rds claim is not really true?
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Physical activity is not a major factor in determining bmr. The 2/3 claim falls well within the accepted range of bmr proportional to total caloric expenditure.
 
CH1 said:
I wish to register my belief in the Ancient Scottish Mackarness Diet.
This seems to have been nicked, modified and patented by Dr Robert Atkins, who then proceeded to have a number of heart attacks. (Maybe he should have left well alone - Dr Mackarness lived to be 80!)
It's not calories but carbs that fatten you up.
Book and Amazon.com review below (that proves it)
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17 of 18 people found the following review helpful
***** More Atkins than Atkins!
I found this book at a flea market while on vacation this past week. It was the Pocket Book edition, 50 cents, published in 1958. As I read it I became both excited by the confirmation of the low-carb approach, and a trifle annoyed that Dr. Atkins has gotten most of the credit for "discovering" this more natural way of eating. I do not think that Dr. Atkins really added anything to Dr. Mackarness' regimen, and, in fact, added some "dubious dogma" in his endorsement of artificial sweeteners and what I call "fake food," e.g., his low-carbohydrate "bread."
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I've never bothered with diets and such, being such a svelt athletic God of a man, but are you saying eating a gazillion calories won't make you fat so long as there are no carbs?
 
TruXta said:
Physical activity is not a major factor in determining bmr. The 2/3 claim falls well within the accepted range of bmr proportional to total caloric expenditure.
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Well done on choosing to ignore my point about the extent of the range being the more useful information than its midpoint.

No-one has said anything about physical activity being a major factor in determining BMR, so not sure why you have suddenly brought that up now.
 
SpamMisery said:
You are not surprised that doing nothing will burn well over 10% of daily intake? I am.
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It would be very surprising if it only burnt 10% of a mostly sedentary person's daily intake because that would mean that doubling their low level of physical actvity would allow them to consume nearly twice as many calories per day as normal, without any impact on weight gain. It would also suggest that by doing absolutely nothing other than sitting on a sofa or going to bed, they could consistently eat only one tenth of their normal intake without expiring.
 
SpamMisery said:
I've never bothered with diets and such, being such a svelt athletic God of a man, but are you saying eating a gazillion calories won't make you fat so long as there are no carbs?
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I'm not personally, not being a doctor - but both Dr Makarness and Dr Atkins claimed that excess calories in the form of carbohydrate are laid down as fat in the body - distribution depending on age and sex of the overeater.

On the other hand excess calories in the form of fat just "pass through" as it were.

Excess protein does not cause fat build up in the body either, but apparently can be dangerous in people with certain kidney conditions.

Finally excess alcohol is OK in the form of pink gins - but not beer, which is chocker with carbohydrate.

Got the picture?

When you cease to be svelt and go socialising in the numerous expensive Brixton cocktail bars make sure they don't give you any cocktails containing any form of sugar.
 
CH1 said:
I'm not personally, not being a doctor - but both Dr Makarness and Dr Atkins claimed that excess calories in the form of carbohydrate are laid down as fat in the body - distribution depending on age and sex of the overeater.

On the other hand excess calories in the form of fat just "pass through" as it were.

Excess protein does not cause fat build up in the body either, but apparently can be dangerous in people with certain kidney conditions.

Finally excess alcohol is OK in the form of pink gins - but not beer, which is chocker with carbohydrate.

Got the picture?

When you cease to be svelt and go socialising in the numerous expensive Brixton cocktail bars make sure they don't give you any cocktails containing any form of sugar.
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Cease to be svelt, you comedian :D
 
teuchter said:
It would be very surprising if it only burnt 10% of a mostly sedentary person's daily intake because that would mean that doubling their low level of physical actvity would allow them to consume nearly twice as many calories per day as normal, without any impact on weight gain. It would also suggest that by doing absolutely nothing other than sitting on a sofa or going to bed, they could consistently eat only one tenth of their normal intake without expiring.
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If you say so. I still find it surprising someone will consume 2/3 of their daily calorie intake without even walking between the fridge and sofa
 
SpamMisery said:
If you say so. I still find it surprising someone will consume 2/3 of their daily calorie intake without even walking between the fridge and sofa
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Why is it surprising? Are you unaware that you consist amongst other things of continuously moving fluids, perpetual chemical reactions which require fuel, and are constantly generating heat?
 
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Rushy said:
I was gutted to discover that you don't actually use more calories eating a stick of celery than are contained within it. It's up there with discovering that there is no Santa Claus. It's been traumatic year.
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Fuck off. That's a straight up lie.
 
teuchter said:
So why are you saying I am "missing the point"? Do you think the "majority of calories burnt in a day" factoid is more important than the facts about the impact of physical activity?
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What impact of physical activity? Who's being misleading? Admit you got it wrong eh?
 
editor said:
I saw about eight women dressed in the latest fitness gear literally crawling along the road at the back of my block a few weeks back while a trainer barked instructions. You pays your money....
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Were they wearing kneepads?
 
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