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Didn't Tescos in effect take Ted Knight out to lunch in order to get planning permission for the Acre Lane store back in the 1980s?

This nasty comment in both its form and content belittles you. I've no idea whether or not such a lunch took place but to claim that the decision depended on such an occasion shows your ignorance of both the man and planning process.
 
This nasty comment in both its form and content belittles you. I've no idea whether or not such a lunch took place but to claim that the decision depended on such an occasion shows your ignorance of both the man and planning process.
As far as I'm concerned the "quid pro quo" would have been more parking for Lambeth officers in the new Tescos car park (think 1984 - the era when Livingstone's Fares Fare was ruled illegal by Lord Denning, Master of the Rolls and motoring was still very much the order of the day).

I think it is a shame that Acre Lane was developed in the way it was. It was a council owned site with a bomb damaged house on part of it which was actually the oldest house in Acre Lane (1803) - but the council did not see fit to have it conserved.

Added to this anyone who lived through Brixton the 1970s and early 1980s will be aware that the old Tescos in Popes Road had as much retail area as Tescos Acre Lane has. Obviously deliveries and maybe storage were more cumbersome.

The salient feature of the Tescos Acre Lane move was that it destroyed the long term viability of Brixton market.

How can you bemoan my Cassandra-like comment? Ted Knight and his Lambeth Cadres were seduced by Tescos. Just as subsequent Lambeth administrations were over Tescos Streatham superstore complex.
 
As far as I'm concerned the "quid pro quo" would have been more parking for Lambeth officers in the new Tescos car park (think 1984 - the era when Livingstone's Fares Fare was ruled illegal by Lord Denning, Master of the Rolls and motoring was still very much the order of the day).

I think it is a shame that Acre Lane was developed in the way it was. It was a council owned site with a bomb damaged house on part of it which was actually the oldest house in Acre Lane (1803) - but the council did not see fit to have it conserved.

Added to this anyone who lived through Brixton the 1970s and early 1980s will be aware that the old Tescos in Popes Road had as much retail area as Tescos Acre Lane has. Obviously deliveries and maybe storage were more cumbersome.

The salient feature of the Tescos Acre Lane move was that it destroyed the long term viability of Brixton market.

How can you bemoan my Cassandra-like comment? Ted Knight and his Lambeth Cadres were seduced by Tescos. Just as subsequent Lambeth administrations were over Tescos Streatham superstore complex.

I'm sure there is scope for a discussion about the development of Tesco's store in Acre Lane. However, you said in terms that Tesco got planning permission because they took Ted Knight out to lunch. You provide no evidence for such a claim and you can't because it's a lie. If you had any decency you should withdraw the comment and apologise.
 
I'm sure there is scope for a discussion about the development of Tesco's store in Acre Lane. However, you said in terms that Tesco got planning permission because they took Ted Knight out to lunch. You provide no evidence for such a claim and you can't because it's a lie. If you had any decency you should withdraw the comment and apologise.
I think you are going over the top in your reaction.
Back in 1983/4 we didn't have workshops where interested members of the public sat around planning Your New Town Hall etc.

Tescos must have had to discuss buying the Acre Lane site from the council, and discuss what the council would like to see on the site.

Why are you suggesting Ted Knight went into purdah because Tescos were around? He was the hands on go-to guy at the time.

Gramsci said "To get planning permission all one had to do was take the local party bosses out for lunch and decide it all there and then."

How is this different from what I am saying, then?
 
I saw about eight women dressed in the latest fitness gear literally crawling along the road at the back of my block a few weeks back while a trainer barked instructions. You pays your money....
 
I saw about eight women dressed in the latest fitness gear literally crawling along the road at the back of my block a few weeks back while a trainer barked instructions. You pays your money....

You compete against me I'm hiding your favourite socks :cool:

 
I saw about eight women dressed in the latest fitness gear literally crawling along the road at the back of my block a few weeks back while a trainer barked instructions. You pays your money....
Might be because there's a street gym there that's been going for a few years. Probably popular at this time of year
 
Might be because there's a street gym there that's been going for a few years. Probably popular at this time of year
I'm aware of that but that doesn't take away from the strangeness of seeing a load of people in expensive sports clothing crawling around a road at the the back of a council estate. At least, I found it odd.
 
I'm aware of that but that doesn't take away from the strangeness of seeing a load of people in expensive sports clothing crawling around a road at the the back of a council estate. At least, I found it odd.
Does sound odd - good for them though
 
I'm aware of that but that doesn't take away from the strangeness of seeing a load of people in expensive sports clothing crawling around a road at the the back of a council estate. At least, I found it odd.
Give it a week or two and all the yuppies trying to shed the Xmas pounds will give up & return to their native environments of champers & posh cheese bars.
 
I'm fairly athletic (well, in between not being) and I don't think I could recognise an expensive ladies' lycra sports kit over a cheap one to be honest. Even less so at a distance. And certainly not without a damned good oggle.
 
Why 'good for them'? Is crawling along a road a thing to be celebrated?
I just meant good for them for getting off their arses and going out to do some exercise, presumably in the knowledge that some people might think they look odd. If it was at the street gym then it's not exactly a £60 a month gym -it's a pound or two a session and if it were women doing it knowing they will be watched I guess that they felt safer crawling round an estate rather than in the park. I just like the idea of people using their environment to exercise rather than staring in a mirror indoors on a treadmill.
 
I'm fairly athletic (well, in between not being) and I don't think I could recognise an expensive ladies' lycra sports kit over a cheap one to be honest. Even less so at a distance. And certainly not without a damned good oggle.
I think expensive ladies' Lycra is more supportive iyswim.
 
Sort of.

She was a senior partner at Allies & Morrison – the architectural firm that drew up the Brixton Supplementary Planning Document [pdf].

That document that her company drew up advised Lambeth Council:

"In conjunction with Network Rail, more railway arches should be brought into active use and the appearance of existing commercial arches improved."

The senior partner denies any knowledge of this part of the report.
Can you clarify what the problem is exactly?

You link to your own article from nearly a year ago when she was not yet elected. When she became an MP she resigned from Allies and Morrison.

Would it not be fair to mention that, instead of deliberately giving readers the impression that there is some kind of conflict of interest? It's not even clear from that article what you wanted clarified in the FOI you mention.

It looks like her commons speech was a good one making some important points. Maybe at this point in time where planning policy is one of the few realistic means to moderate the fairly drastic changes occurring in our area we should try to be optimistic about the fact that we have a well-informed MP who understands in detail the practical impact of planning issues. Rather than this kind of vague smearing with partial information.

If you think there's a conflict of interest as a result of her professional background then be specific about what it is and what should be done about it.
 
I think expensive ladies' Lycra is more supportive iyswim. Have a proper ogle and you will swim.
Thanks. I'm starting to come around to understanding how long distance sportswear value assessment could become a fulfilling pass time.
 
Might be because there's a street gym there that's been going for a few years. Probably popular at this time of year
what is a 'street gym' how does that work?

I'm always surprised to see the numbers of people jogging about near Brockwell park in the dark each morning, must say I haven't really noticed what they are wearing, and wouldn't know expensive from market cheap anyway. They usually look rather sweaty.

I've just been cheered up by learning two thirds of all the calories we burn, are used up by just sitting about not really doing anything. (I'm watching 'The Truth about calories' on BBC iplayer) I'm burning about 90 cals an hour here apparently.
 
Not quite sure how someone crawling around on the floor in supposedly expensive gym wear round the back of an estate is automatically a 'yuppie' but there we go
 
Look up basal metabolic rate.
According to this someone doing little or no excercise will burn about 83% of their total daily energy expenditure on account of their basal metabolic rate.

And someone extremely active will only burn 52% of their total on account of their BMR.

So, the truth is that the proportion of calories we burn as a result of just sitting around varies between about 50 and 80% (ie quite a lot) depending on the amount of excercise we do. Not "two thirds".
 
According to this someone doing little or no excercise will burn about 83% of their total daily energy expenditure on account of their basal metabolic rate.

And someone extremely active will only burn 52% of their total on account of their BMR.

So, the truth is that the proportion of calories we burn as a result of just sitting around varies between about 50 and 80% (ie quite a lot) depending on the amount of excercise we do. Not "two thirds".
Well done on deliberately missing the point.
 
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